Not active here much anymore, but like to weigh in at least once a year. Today is Year 5. For those in the waiting room or about to head in... I was 67, they ...Read more
Not active here much anymore, but like to weigh in at least once a year. Today is Year 5. For those in the waiting room or about to head in... I was 67, they found a unicuspid once they were in there. Partial aorta repair. Single bypass of a small artery. Got a new 100k warranty!
My advice - just go with it. Follow the protocol. The resilience of the human heart is nothing short of remarkable. Bark of the whole thing is worse than its bite.
And go see Adam's recent "dispelling myths" webinar with the folks from Northwestern. It was really exceptional, as was the support of this site.
Onward!!!
PS - 5 year echo tomorrow, so... 🤞 But I feel great. Reach out if you have any questions.
Larry Peterson Thanks Herb- I'm on year 2 and it's great to hear stories like yours!
With the team that sewed/made my valve at Edwards Lifesciences Patient Experience. I encourage anybody who is interested who has an Edwards valve to request ...Read more
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Ana Brusso I’m grateful for these people as I do have an Edwards valve. Glad you got to meet them Herb. Thank ... Read more
Ana Brusso I’m grateful for these people as I do have an Edwards valve. Glad you got to meet them Herb. Thank you for sharing 🙏❤️
Andrew Dial So freakin cool! What an awesome thing to be a part of
Marie Myers I feel just like Ana does! So grateful!
john roland My man Herb. Good to see you are doing well. I also have that valve and I sure hope it lasts a long t ... Read more
john roland My man Herb. Good to see you are doing well. I also have that valve and I sure hope it lasts a long time. Be well and thanks for the update.
Herb Greenberg Thanks all. Ana, you remain an inspiration. Marie/Andrew thanks. John!!!! Glad to see you are doing s ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Thanks all. Ana, you remain an inspiration. Marie/Andrew thanks. John!!!! Glad to see you are doing so well, as well. The good news, John, is that if we need it replaced, we were both likely sized for TAVR. I met a lot of TAVR folks, including one guy who had his tricuspid replaced via transcatheter. It's all in the "amazing" category.
john roland I am all pre sized for the TAVR when needed. I signed up for the for the tour at Edwards. I hope to s ... Read more
john roland I am all pre sized for the TAVR when needed. I signed up for the for the tour at Edwards. I hope to see the Herb Greenberg Hall of Fame picture on the wall
Herb Greenberg Trust me, John - no HG hall of anything but maybe shame!
Hi all, today is my 3-year anniversary. Encouraging comments on this site helped me go into surgery with a sense of excitement rather than fear or dread. Attitude ...Read more
Hi all, today is my 3-year anniversary. Encouraging comments on this site helped me go into surgery with a sense of excitement rather than fear or dread. Attitude going in is SO important and if you're wondering... yes, there is a great life post-surgery. I did this quick video as proof. Enjoy!
Klara Čičić Very nice, Herb!! Congratulations! You are doing great! This video is amazing. I am sure people appro ... Read more
Klara Čičić Very nice, Herb!! Congratulations! You are doing great! This video is amazing. I am sure people approaching the surgery will appreciate it so much, as well as the rest of us. All the best!
George Gardopee Happy Anniversary Herb! It is terrific to see you doing so well (but not surprising). Great encourage ... Read more
George Gardopee Happy Anniversary Herb! It is terrific to see you doing so well (but not surprising). Great encouragement for anyone with anxiety about upcoming procedures.
Deena Z Love your message. So upbeat and so true. Cant believe you are 71; look way younger!
Herb Greenberg Thanks, all. I remain mind-blown by how the heart and body recover.
Marie Myers Totally agree that It is a miracle what can be done in surgery, and it is a miracle how we recover!
Timothy Andre Awesome update Herb! Congrats on your 3 year anniversary. I appreciate your upbeat and positive vide... Read more
Timothy Andre Awesome update Herb! Congrats on your 3 year anniversary. I appreciate your upbeat and positive video. You are definitely an inspiration.
Steven Weber Thank you Herb! I'm someone that you're helping with your post!
Herb Greenberg Thanks all, and Steven - thrilled. Before my surgery I had some image of me being a near invalid for ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Thanks all, and Steven - thrilled. Before my surgery I had some image of me being a near invalid for a short while. Just the opposite. Let's put it like this: I was staying at a hotel in Cleveland, which meant I'd be there for 10 days, or a few days after getting released. I asked my surgeon's nurse if I should rent a recliner. She immediately said, "NO!" Her point was, I won't need one. And I didn't. Like so many here, I was surprised at the speed of recovery. Feel free to reach out with any questions.
Two years for me today, aortic valve (mine turned out to be unicuspid, not bicuspid; root, and ascending aorta... at CC by Dr. Svensson. I was 67 then. As ...Read more
Two years for me today, aortic valve (mine turned out to be unicuspid, not bicuspid; root, and ascending aorta... at CC by Dr. Svensson. I was 67 then. As I tell anybody who will listen: If there was not a fading scar I'd know nothing was done. If you are heading into this surgery, know that even with bumps that are likely, you will likely get on with your life. It's all pretty miraculous. Lots of good support here and on Adam's facebook page. No question is a stupid question. Cheers.
Mary Milewski thank you for your encouraging post---I am scheduled for SAVR on 3/10 --no nerves til now. its so go ... Read more
Mary Milewski thank you for your encouraging post---I am scheduled for SAVR on 3/10 --no nerves til now. its so good to hear how well you've recovered and that, despite the complexity of your procedure, you had a pretty good post-op course. Thank-you.
Rose Madura Very good post. Glad you are doing so well. My scar is also hardly visible
Deena Z Congrats! I remember you giving me advice prior to my surgery almost one year ago. I so appreciated ... Read more
Deena Z Congrats! I remember you giving me advice prior to my surgery almost one year ago. I so appreciated it. Keep on ticking strong, Herb!
Good to hear from you Herb, happy anniversary
George Gardopee Herb: Happy Anniversary. I agree with you whole-heartedly.
Herb Greenberg Hi all, sorry for the delayed response. Thanks very much. Mary, please let us know how your went!
Herb Greenberg Also, Deena, thrilled everything went so well. Rose, amazing how it kind of just fades. Ana, thank yo ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Also, Deena, thrilled everything went so well. Rose, amazing how it kind of just fades. Ana, thank you! And George, it's all pretty remarkable.
Bradley Dunn Just checking in on you. Good choice I'm surgeons BTW.
If I didn't have the fading 9"scar, which I prefer to refer to as the souvenir, I wouldn't know they had done so much under the hood (valve/root/ascending aorta/single ...Read more
If I didn't have the fading 9"scar, which I prefer to refer to as the souvenir, I wouldn't know they had done so much under the hood (valve/root/ascending aorta/single bypass.) The best part: During exercise I have reserve power that I never had before. I used to say I was asymptomatic. Like so many who think they are, I guess I wasn't!
Hi Herb, congratulations on your successful surgery and your recovery. Yes, is amazing what these gif ... Read more
Hi Herb, congratulations on your successful surgery and your recovery. Yes, is amazing what these gifted surgeons can do “under the hood”as you call it. You are right about being a symptomatic. I had shortness of breath but didn’t think anything of it as I could go to gym and exercise, but the murmur became too loud and the rest is history. I’m 14 mos. post op. Wish you continued good health and keep on writing.
Deena Z Herb, Congrats! And thank you to you and your wife for all the detailed and photographic "story tell ... Read more
Deena Z Herb, Congrats! And thank you to you and your wife for all the detailed and photographic "story telling". Well done! But more importantly, your doing well. Interesting point about thinking you were asymptomatic. I wonder about that too. I feel just fine, EXCEPT if I push really hard on a spin bike or something similar to that. Will see, after my surgery in March. To your long, strong life ahead. Happy pumping!
Today marks seven weeks since my multi-pronged procedure: Aortic valve, aortic root, ascending aorta and single bypass. The time has sped by. If it weren’t ...Read more
Today marks seven weeks since my multi-pronged procedure: Aortic valve, aortic root, ascending aorta and single bypass. The time has sped by. If it weren’t for the scar and the feeling of each thump of my valve (Edwards 2700 bovine) I wouldn’t know anything is different. (To be fair on the thump – previously I had a unicuspid valve, so I have no idea what a fully functioning tricuspid valve is supposed to feel like.)
The most remarkable part of the whole experience is how quickly my exercise has progressed; I’m pretty much back to my pre-surgical levels, which is walking 3+ miles in about 50 minutes or around 16.5 minutes per mile, give or take. This includes some pretty good hills. Seems like just a few weeks ago (wait – it was) that I had to slow down walking up a slight hill, during 10-minute walks, because I could feel my chest tightening. I always considered myself asymptomatic, but I think my breathing is smoother on the hills. I’m eager to restart certain stretches, but the cardiac rehab folks (via email) have advised waiting another week.
My sternum, with the full zipper, is pretty much healed (doesn’t hurt to sneeze or cough) but after coming this far I do not want to screw things up. My BP, which was hard to control pre-surgery, now seems easier to control. The asterisk to that statement is that we are still tinkering with meds. I left the hospital on 75mg of metoprolol. We then cut it to 50mg. It’s now down to 25mg. (Pre-surgery I was taking carvedilol. I also take 25mg of eplerenone (diuretic) and 75mg of Irbesartan. (It was 300mg pre-surgery.) We’re trying to balance the BP w/my heart rate, which has tended to be low. Otherwise, feel great.
A few other random thoughts from my hospital stay at the fabulous Cleveland Clinic – some of you may relate, regardless of where you were:
F-f-freezing. When I was in the hospital, I was always cold…VERY cold – and I’m never the person who gets cold. I continued to be sensitive to the cold at home. That finally seems to be dissipating, and my body temperature seems to be adjusting to my various new parts.
Time in the ICU. When I think back to the days in the ICU at the CC, I remember everything from the moment Joe – the fantastic ICU nurse – took out the breathing tube; yet many of those memories from the ICU are a blur, likely thanks to hitting the fentanyl button every six minutes. (Tip: Bring an eye mask to block out the light and really good earplugs to drown out the noise.)
Step-down unit. We actually did not like the first nurse we had (depressive, not friendly), mentioned it to the surgeon’s nurse practitioner. Presto – that nurse was replaced with a fantastic nurse. (Tip: Speak up!)
Fearing the chest tubes. I was not a fan of the anticipation of having all of the chest tubes/central lines removed; in retrospect, its bark was not as bad as its bite. (Tip: This was a case where I read way too much on one of the forums.)
Back pain. The biggest pain I had in the hospital was my back – just aching from having been split open and having had everything pushed aside. I came to hate the hospital beds; even tried a different one. But truth be told: Hospital beds are not comfortable. As a result, starting day 2 in the ICU, I spent as much time as possible in the chair. And once in the step-down, even when I couldn’t sleep – often getting up at 1 or 2 a.m. – I swiftly moved to the chair. And after a few days, set up my iPad and phone at a table and chairs by the window and did a little work. (Tip No. 1: To help with my back, I had the holistic nurse who was part of my surgeon’s team come by several times and do Reiki and even reflexology. It helped! If such a thing is offered, use it. Tip No. 2: Get out of bed. I was surprised, when I walked the halls of step-down, how many people were in their beds.)
Please, no more blood. The one thing I came to really was the early morning visit by the phlebologists. Without question they were the least friendly of anybody on staff. I’m sure they know that NOBODY is thrilled to see them, especially at 4 a.m. Inserting any needle was especially hard early on, when my hands and arms were swollen in the day or two following surgery.
I have no idea why this recovery, as of now (knock on wood), has been as straight-forward (and almost as easy) as it has been. Some of it may have to do with my physical and mental shape going into the surgery. Some may have to do with the surgeon and the hospital. Some of it may just be me. (And I didn’t even get into the incidental finding just after surgery that required a PICC line and a multi-week course of IV antibiotics. And that may have been the result of the only complication from the surgery – bacteria backing up from the Foley catheter.) One thing I’ve learned from reading these patient forums for years – and I realize there are some exceptions – is that ALMOST EVERYBODY feels a vast improvement in a fairly short period. Eight weeks seems to be an important benchmark. Closing in on it!
Marie Myers Can so agree with the back pain story! It was far more bothersome than my sternum, and I could not w ... Read more
Marie Myers Can so agree with the back pain story! It was far more bothersome than my sternum, and I could not wait to get a massage around 3 months post op.
Glad to hear you are doing well!
Susan Lynn Herb - Glad you're doing well! It's good to read that your recovery has been "straight-forward" and ... Read more
Susan Lynn Herb - Glad you're doing well! It's good to read that your recovery has been "straight-forward" and almost "easy". Without a doubt, our imaginations can be our worst enemies during the pre-op waiting process. It's great to read another success story. It is sure to ease the minds of the future heart warriors who are following these testimonials. Continued success!
Herb Greenberg Marie, thanks. Counting down the days till I can start certain stretches that won't harm the sternum. ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Marie, thanks. Counting down the days till I can start certain stretches that won't harm the sternum. And it IS days. Susan - the human body and what they can do to fix it never ceases to amaze!
A tale of 2 weeks in Cleveland...Except for the reason you are there, traveling to a medical destination is a similar experience to traveling somewhere new.
john roland That is by far the best and biggest post card I ever saw. Terrific
A bit of an update: Got home yesterday. Flight from CC to LAX was uneventful. CC encouraged me to use the airport's wheelchair service on both ends, and very ...Read more
A bit of an update: Got home yesterday. Flight from CC to LAX was uneventful. CC encouraged me to use the airport's wheelchair service on both ends, and very glad I did; walking would have been WAY too stressful on my body, and it was great for my wife to have that extra help with the luggage.
I'm learning to listen to my body. I overdid it on Friday, for reasons I'll explain in a moment. Later that day, and early Saturday, marked the first time I did not feel as good as I had been feeling. I've been telling people that I don't feel like I had major heart surgery, which included an aortic valve, a root, an ascending aorta and a single bypass. That swift in-hospital recovery obviously led to a false sense of security, which as I’ve read here can be a common trap. My heart clearly does NOT like pushing the boundaries, especially burning the candle at both ends.
A little background…
In normal times, my situation would have had an extra level of stress. While recovery from the actual heart surgery has been fairly straight-forward, there was a wrinkle: Like many people, my bowels did not want to cooperate and “wake up” the way they should have post-surgery. This is called ileus. That led to some bowel discomfort and a night from hell (for me AND the poor nurse who was charged with clean up) during the first night in the step-down unit.
During a scan of my abdomen to rule out a bowel blockage, they noted a “possible” abscess, or tiny infection (<2 cm) near my prostate. That set off all kinds of alarms and visits with a urologist and infectious disease doc. After a day of trying to figure out the right solution – either remove the abscess immediately and culture the infection, to determine what drug should be used to treat it, or treat with multiple antibiotics NOW – the surgeon (who is the final arbiter) ruled to start treating with antibiotics. He felt it would be best to wait to treat the abscess until after six weeks post-surgery, which is the most sensitive time for an infection to occur.
To treat NOW meant I would need a picc line inserted in my arm but more importantly, that my caregiver – AKA my already stressed-out wife – would need to learn how to attach the IV. This is not something she is wired to do, and it's a tricky process that requires compete sterility. As a result, every 12 hours, for three sessions, a nurse came to our hotel room in Cleveland to teach us how to do this on our own. Each drip takes an hour, with prep taking another 30 mins. That meant less sleep, which triggered Angry Heart.
Combine that with an early flight back on Saturday and I was extremely fatigued.
So was my wife. We typically split chores. I ALWAYS do the grocery shopping and know where everything is in the various stores. After ANY trip our routine is that I go to the store, she unpacks.
This time was different. I couldn’t help. That meant the burden for EVERYTHING was on her. After a two-hour drive from LAX, and jet-lagged, to boot, she had to get to the store to restock our bare cupboard.
BUT… these aren’t normal times. Thanks to the coronavirus, the shelves were empty. She was able to find basics. By then she was exhausted. I was exhausted. We skipped the day’s IV treatments (doctor said it was fine to do.)
By 6 pm – 9 p.m. Cleveland time – I was exhausted. I turned in for the night, knowing full-well I would be awake by 1.
That got me to wondering what the word "rest" after surgery means, and I think I’m starting to figure it out. Let’s just say I told my biz partner I’ll be on reduced bandwidth for at least another week or two, if not longer. Then again, in an odd twist of fate, so will everybody else.
john roland Thanks for the update Herb. Of course I'm sorry to hear about all the issues you had but the silver l ... Read more
john roland Thanks for the update Herb. Of course I'm sorry to hear about all the issues you had but the silver lining is right in front of you and your wife now. As Adam says, "keep on ticking" and I say "keep posting". Good luck and "hey, be careful out there".
Lorraine Mobley You have extra reasons to stay quarantined at this time! You need the rest and so does your wife/car ... Read more
Lorraine Mobley You have extra reasons to stay quarantined at this time! You need the rest and so does your wife/caregiver. Watch some good movies together, try to move to keep those bowels moving and sit outside in the sun for at least 30 minutes a day.....get well soon!
Herb Greenberg My bowel issue is fully resolved. It's the infection (symptoms have disappeared) that we are treating ... Read more
Herb Greenberg My bowel issue is fully resolved. It's the infection (symptoms have disappeared) that we are treating. I plan to go nowhere, with the exception of doctor appts. Cannot avoid those. Otherwise, will be "resting."
Skipper Kagamaster The whole "resting" thing is hard to really catch hold of for me, too. I ended up pushing too hard a ... Read more
Skipper Kagamaster The whole "resting" thing is hard to really catch hold of for me, too. I ended up pushing too hard a couple of times this last week and I took naps in the middle of the day; not on purpose, mind, but I went to "sit down for a minute" and woke up hours later! Heart surgery is an interesting experience (especially with COVID 19 logistics). Thanks for sharing, and I hope you stay on the mend!
Herb Greenberg Love that "sit down for a minute...." line, Skipper. COVID 19 clearly gives this a new twist. Skipper ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Love that "sit down for a minute...." line, Skipper. COVID 19 clearly gives this a new twist. Skipper, Lorraine and John - thanks. Quite the experience.
Dan Baltazor So sorry for your experience. I also did experience Ileus. They basically gave me OTC meds, however ... Read more
Dan Baltazor So sorry for your experience. I also did experience Ileus. They basically gave me OTC meds, however I was miserable. It took a week after already being home before I started feeling better. I have to say that now, over a year post op and I do have minor issues with some foods that I did not have before OHS. Hang in there. I hope the antibiotics can get rid of this for you and keep on in the right direction.
Herb Greenberg Dan, I would say ileus was the worst part of the whole thing. My full taste/smell/appetite are back. ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Dan, I would say ileus was the worst part of the whole thing. My full taste/smell/appetite are back. No digestion issues, thankfully. My night from hell was the direct result of being prescribed too many laxatives, which didn't work. One GI fellow mentioned that if things didn't improve they might have to stick a tube down my nose to my stomach to suck out air. That literally scared the sh*t out of me. Within 24 hours I was on the mend.
Susan Lynn Herb - Glad you're back in sunny CA and on the mend. It sounds like you had quite an experience, but ... Read more
Susan Lynn Herb - Glad you're back in sunny CA and on the mend. It sounds like you had quite an experience, but the worst is behind you. Now, walk, rest, repeat is on the agenda. There are ups and downs, but the good days become more and more frequent until this is all just a distant memory! Wishing you a speedy recovery!
Rose Madura I have a couple of "poo poo" stories when I was in the hospital too. 🙄 The advice to listen to y ... Read more
Rose Madura I have a couple of "poo poo" stories when I was in the hospital too. 🙄 The advice to listen to your body is good advice. Best wishes for a uneventful recovery.
Herman Kanter Great write-up and I am glad to hear that you are feeling better. I have heard nothing but great thi ... Read more
Herman Kanter Great write-up and I am glad to hear that you are feeling better. I have heard nothing but great things about CC. I remember my first 5 weeks of post op, I did everything I could do to resist coughing, sneezing, and laughing. It all gets better. Other than the occasional ticking sound and feeling great, I wouldn't have known anything was done to me. Stay well!
john roland Haven't heard from you in a while Herman. Glad to see you are doing well.
Quick note. Still in the ICU. Surgery went well. The biggest surprise - no bicuspid but a unicuspid. Surgeon was surprised. Said usually found in people half ...Read more
Quick note. Still in the ICU. Surgery went well. The biggest surprise - no bicuspid but a unicuspid. Surgeon was surprised. Said usually found in people half my age; I’m 67. The heart compensated by expanding; it apparently is like an athlete’s heart. I’ll post more once I’m in step down. Thanks again Adam for this site.
Susan Lynn Great to hear from you, Herb! Welcome to recovery! Happy your procedure went well. You did it! ... Read more
Susan Lynn Great to hear from you, Herb! Welcome to recovery! Happy your procedure went well. You did it! ❤
john roland My man Herb, glad you are on the recovery side and sounding well. Keep up the good work.
Mike Roskowinski Great to hear Herb. I got mine replaced at 39 and I was also unicuspid. You did it!!! So glad to h ... Read more
Mike Roskowinski Great to hear Herb. I got mine replaced at 39 and I was also unicuspid. You did it!!! So glad to hear you are doing well in recovery
One of the most common, congenital heart valve disorders is a bicuspid aortic valve. Patients born with a bicuspid aortic valve have only two leaflets. Normal a
Tom McDonald Great news Herb, welcome to recovery!
Everyday gets better
As others have said the angiogram was a piece of cake. They found one blockage; it was a surprise but as with all of this I’m thrilled we found this before ...Read more
As others have said the angiogram was a piece of cake. They found one blockage; it was a surprise but as with all of this I’m thrilled we found this before there before it found me. onward....
Adam Pick Whoa. That's unexpected but actually great news. It's amazing how potentially life-threatening situ ... Read more
Adam Pick Whoa. That's unexpected but actually great news. It's amazing how potentially life-threatening situations can be prevented through testing. For example, my wife had a case of Bell's Palsy. Very scary as we thought it was a stroke. During the diagnostic (CT) testing, they found a spot in her brain which ended up being a small tumor. Ultimately, she needed brain surgery which led to the removal of the cancer. She's doing great. But, my goodness, what could have happened. I'm glad they found your blockage Herb!
Herb Greenberg These incidental findings can be life savers.
Skipper Kagamaster That's a bullet nicely dodged; here's hoping for more good news this week for you!
Lorraine Mobley Great! That is exactly why they do it-- you sure don't want any unexpected surprises in the OR. Onw ... Read more
Lorraine Mobley Great! That is exactly why they do it-- you sure don't want any unexpected surprises in the OR. Onward my friend!
Headed to Cleveland today for the Main Event (valve, composite root graft, ascending aorta) on Wednesday. I bought Adam's book a long, long time ago – probably ...Read more
Headed to Cleveland today for the Main Event (valve, composite root graft, ascending aorta) on Wednesday. I bought Adam's book a long, long time ago – probably in 2007 or 2008, as I started to ramp up interest in my situation. As things progressed, and at some point after this site was launched, I became a regular visitor and, more recently, Adam's Heart Valve FB page, which I only recently discovered. (If you haven't been there, you should. Lots of real-time discussion.) All of this has been invaluable in connecting with others who have been through varying degrees of valve/aorta repair/replacement. Just knowing potential complications, and interacting and reading experiences of those who have dealt with them – and how, in general, their lives have gone on – has been inspiring. I can't imagine going into something like this without having had this level of peer-to-peer contact. Thanks all and, as they say, stay tuned for updates.
john roland I am a month behind you Herb so I will be watching every word you type. Good luck to you and stay str ... Read more
john roland I am a month behind you Herb so I will be watching every word you type. Good luck to you and stay strong.
Skipper Kagamaster Go get this behind you! Stay strong and keep moving forward; soon you'll be better than ever.
Herb Greenberg Skipper, not sure if I will be able to muster a smile as fast as you did but it’s the goal going in ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Skipper, not sure if I will be able to muster a smile as fast as you did but it’s the goal going in!!!
kevin kranzer I just had open heart surgery less than two weeks ago and organic risen repaired and aortic valve rep ... Read more
kevin kranzer I just had open heart surgery less than two weeks ago and organic risen repaired and aortic valve replaced and I’m up and moving around doing a small chores and getting things done
Herb Greenberg Kevin, that’s great. I get a valve, composite root and aneurism. Full open. Hoping to fly home 10 d ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Kevin, that’s great. I get a valve, composite root and aneurism. Full open. Hoping to fly home 10 days after! At least that is what my tickets say! ;-)
Herb, you have been ready for your surgery and now on Wednesday you will finally get to go through it ... Read more
Herb, you have been ready for your surgery and now on Wednesday you will finally get to go through it and will come out well. We are praying and having gone through almost the same type of surgery I know you will also have a great smile to share with us, I had one minutes after waking up just knowing I survived it. You have a great attitude, great surgical team, great family and us. I so enjoy reading your posts. Write as soon as you can. God bless you
Frank Giovanniello Sounds like you got this down, and your head is in the right place. All Things Good !
David Stinson I'm waiting for a medical stress test BUT it has been cancelled due to corona virus. I am to have a v ... Read more
David Stinson I'm waiting for a medical stress test BUT it has been cancelled due to corona virus. I am to have a vale replacement @ Heart Institute in Ottawa, Ont. its nice to read others experience as I'm a little a anxious go say to say the least.
For those in need of some inspiration, especially if you are concerned about the scar – especially if you are having the full regalia – I highly recommend ...Read more
For those in need of some inspiration, especially if you are concerned about the scar – especially if you are having the full regalia – I highly recommend this story by the NBA's Jeff Green, who had aneurysm surgery a few years ago. It's fantastic. I'm having similar surgery by the same surgeon soon. I stumbled on it today and posted it on Adam's FB page. I figure some here might not be there, so here you go: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/jeff-green-the-scar
After years of sitting patiently in the waiting room, they called my number!
Flew to the Cleveland Clinic to meet with Drs. Griffin (the very kind and well-regarded ...Read more
After years of sitting patiently in the waiting room, they called my number!
Flew to the Cleveland Clinic to meet with Drs. Griffin (the very kind and well-regarded cardiologist) and Svensson (the equally kind and by reputation exceedingly talented surgeon.)
I had a battery of tests: Echo, Stress Echo, Echocardiogram, Chest Xray and CT w/contrast. They showed a radical change in my valve: Stenosis, mild for years, went to severe; regurgitation to severe from moderate-severe. Plus, my mitral valve is now leaking.
Dr. Svensson suggested we get this done "soon," largely to avoid any damage to my left ventricle, which is slightly dilated, and any further issues with my mitral valve. If done soon, he believes the ventricle and mitral valve will repair myself.
The good news is that my heart muscle is considered in very good shape, which barring complications should result in a good outcome.
The bad news, if you can call it that: Because of the root, which will be a Bentall procedure with a composite root and bioprosthetic Edwards 2700 valve, I will have a full sternotomy.
Dr. Svensson said it could be done with a more minimal incision, but that the results tend to be better for this type of procedure with a full viewing area. As a bonus, it helps make sure the calcium from my valve doesn't go where it isn't supposed to be. As it relates to the wayward calcium, Dr. Svensson looked at me in the eyes and said, "I'm meticulous." At which point I thought, "Where do I sign up?" Surgery date: March 4.
Reading this forum for many years had paid off. It has helped give me a realistic view of complications, but also good results. I'm very much at peace with this and looking forward to getting on with my life.
Cheers,
Herb
Adam Pick Herb, You are in the best of hands with Dr. Svennson and his team. He is one of the best out there. h ... Read more
See patient reviews, physician biography, videos and contact information for Dr. Lars Svensson, heart surgeon, in Cleveland, Ohio.
Herb Greenberg Thanks, Adam. I agree with you. Once again, thanks for this great site.
Frank Giovanniello From San Diego to CC, you must have a real good feeling with this Doctor. That is the main thing. I h ... Read more
Frank Giovanniello From San Diego to CC, you must have a real good feeling with this Doctor. That is the main thing. I have heard his name here. Prayers for you. All things good !
Shannon Gray Both my doctors there, as well. You are in great hands and continued prayers as you approach your sur ... Read more
Shannon Gray Both my doctors there, as well. You are in great hands and continued prayers as you approach your surgery.
Herb Greenberg Frank, thanks! For this specific situation I sought out aorta specialists. If time had permitted, I h ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Frank, thanks! For this specific situation I sought out aorta specialists. If time had permitted, I had planned to also meet with docs at Mayo Rochester. And I consulted via phone with Dr. Castro in SF, who had seen my films. (Really liked him.) But things have expedited fairly quickly and for my situation I believe this is the best route. I agree, all things good! Shannon, very glad to hear. And thank you very much.
Adam Pick Herb, No need to thank me. THANK YOU for being a part of this community!!!
Headed to CC in two weeks for a series of tests and a consult with Drs. Griffin and Svensson. I'm really looking forward to the stress echo mid-morning on an ...Read more
Headed to CC in two weeks for a series of tests and a consult with Drs. Griffin and Svensson. I'm really looking forward to the stress echo mid-morning on an empty stomach and no caffeine. Oh, and since they're three hours ahead of California – and since arrival time at the clinic is equal to my body clock's usual wake-up time, I expect a fascinating experience. Even better: No food until the CT scan, which is close to noon. But seriously ... I'm actually looking forward to all of this, especially a comparison of measurements done here, because I need clarity and want to get on with my life. With an AA and root supposedly at 4.9cm (and the root supposedly having expanded by 3cm over 6 months) I feel it is time to shift to the next level. Plus, we have our first grandchild arriving in early July and this ain't messin' with that! The trouble with these kind of measurements is that you know you're close, but you don't know when – and neither do the docs. Short of them saying, "Now," it's either check back in another three months...and another...and another. Except, we have our lives planned out (trips, etc) so this now becomes an asterisk to all of that. Like many of you, I consider myself lucky to know what I have, lucky to have found Adam's site (I'm so old that I bought his book when it was FIRST published), and with time on my side have had the opportunity to have read any and every study and seen any and every video I have been able to get my hands on. Will report back.
Shannon Gray Both are my Dr.’s! You are in great care!
Herb Greenberg Thanks, Shannon. Given everything you have gone through, that's encouraging.
Herb, you seem to be prepare for this. Keep us updated. Be well
Skipper Kagamaster I'll be following along with your progress; hope for some great results, and that you'll be able to h ... Read more
Skipper Kagamaster I'll be following along with your progress; hope for some great results, and that you'll be able to hold your grandchild in July!
While I am still in the waiting room, I thought I would it would be worth sharing this one point: Knowing that surgery is sooner rather than later, and that ...Read more
While I am still in the waiting room, I thought I would it would be worth sharing this one point: Knowing that surgery is sooner rather than later, and that baby aspirin apparently is part of the post-op regimen, it got me to thinking: I'm allergic to aspirin and have been since my teens. (I'm almost 67.)
Long story short: No, I'm not or no longer am. (Much like Peter Eglinton mentioned in another post about his one-time allergy to penicillin.) Aspirin desensitization was pioneered here in San Diego at Scripps. It is now down at many facilities around the country. I thought it would be a good idea to get desensitized pre-surgery.
As it turns out, they gave me an aspirin challenge, and determined that while I may have once been sensitive to aspirin, I no longer am. (And if I was, they would have been able to desensitize me so I could take the baby aspirin. The catch with sensitization, if you truly are allergic, is that to remain desensitized you would have to take (in my case the baby) aspirin every day until you no longer need or want to take aspirin.
Apparently, it's true what they say: Some people really do grow out of their allergies. This story in the NYT about penicillin says it best. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/22/well/live/allergic-to-penicillin-you-may-not-be.html
I figured I'm not the only one thinking they are allergic to aspirin and Peter isn't the only one concerned about penicillin.
I'm now on the three-month plan for scans/imaging for my bicuspid AVR/aneurysm, which has hit that gray area. The overall view from my scan of last week: No ...Read more
I'm now on the three-month plan for scans/imaging for my bicuspid AVR/aneurysm, which has hit that gray area. The overall view from my scan of last week: No change, with a few slight improvements. This was with the top cardiac stenographer at Scripps and it was without question the most thorough echo I have had in the 40 years I have been getting echos. Result: Left ventricle function still good; ascending aorta is stable at 4.9cm. (Cleveland cuts at 5.) Next stop: An MRA w/o contrast in June, to get a clearer view of the AA. (They have ONE specific machine they use for those scans) Will decide then whether to schedule a visit later in the year with Dr. Svennson at CC, per his recommendation, or continue to wait.
Rob Sparling Stay vigilant, Herb. I need you around a long time to make good on our deal! 😜
Claire Kreger-Boaz Hi Herb! I am also in San Diego. My numbers are similar to yours, but I am having symptoms. Have you ... Read more
Claire Kreger-Boaz Hi Herb! I am also in San Diego. My numbers are similar to yours, but I am having symptoms. Have you met with any cardiac surgeons locally? I am going to see Dr. Hemp on Monday. He comes highly recommended! I have a friend to had his surgery at Cleveland Clinic and it was rough on his family, living out of a hotel. I also have no idea how insurance works with that degree of out-of-network... I'd be really interested to hear why you've decided to go to CC vs. SD and if your insurance will cover it there?
Mike Roskowinski Welcome Herb!! Keep on your journey and we are all praying for you! I got my MRA a few weeks ago an ... Read more
Mike Roskowinski Welcome Herb!! Keep on your journey and we are all praying for you! I got my MRA a few weeks ago and it was not to bad. The CT Scan with contrast was not bad either just different. Keep up on your plan to get that fixed.
Herb Greenberg Rob, you haven't met vigilant until you have met me ;-) Mike, I intentionally avoid the contrast (hav ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Rob, you haven't met vigilant until you have met me ;-) Mike, I intentionally avoid the contrast (have had my share!) if I can so Scripps has worked out a way to do it to get good-enough– pictures with the MRI. I'm also holding back on the CT and the contrast that goes with that and the angiogram until it's game time. Mike, having followed your posts glad to see that your head is getting into the right space. Too many posts from people who have gotten from here to there to have anything but a positive attitude. Claire, I've heard nothing but great things about Dr. Hemp. A former neighbor's husband had his valve replaced by him; she was a nurse at Scripps and she knew who to go to. He was a heckuva lot older than I am and he sailed through it. Feel free to contact me privately and we can hop on the phone and compare notes (herb.greenberg@gmail.com)
Carlos Banuelos Hi Herb and Claire, nice to see some fellow San Diegans on here. My numbers aren’t actually that b ... Read more
Carlos Banuelos Hi Herb and Claire, nice to see some fellow San Diegans on here. My numbers aren’t actually that bad but at peak exerciser during my stress echo the valve gradient is really high, and I started having symptoms like only being able to run on a treadmill at 5.0 speed (used to run at 7 or 7.5) and feeling tightness in chest and short of breath when surfing. As a result, my cardiologists (I saw several) and the surgeons I spoke to generally agreed it was time to operate. I would love to chat with you both about things. This process isn’t very fun. I’m work in the health care industry and can share my research. It’s amazint how hard it is to sift through all of the information out there. Ultimately I chose Cleveland Clinic but agree it may be hard in my family. I rented a house for 2.5 weeks and I’m not bringing my kids. Don’t really want them seeing me post-op until I’m somewhat back to normal. My email is carlos.banuelos@navigatebp.com if you would like to chat privately.
It has been awhile since I have written, having been hanging out in the waiting room – alternating an MRI and echo every six months. The most recent echo, ...Read more
It has been awhile since I have written, having been hanging out in the waiting room – alternating an MRI and echo every six months. The most recent echo, in December, had the kind of change that gets your attention: My left ventricle size. I’m bicuspid with a (now) 4.9cm ascending aorta (though, if done by an MRI, it could still be 4.7cm – there seems to be a variance.) Either way, the aorta is still within the not-yet stage.
However, the big change that caught my doc’s attention was the left-ventricular ending systolic volume (LV-ESV), which has slightly exceeded the 50mm level, which puts me at Class 2a, which is technically surgical. (Or, as my cardiologists say after uttering the word “intervention” – “it’s time to start putting together a plan.”) The initial read on this past echo was very close to the alarming 60mm. But my cardiologist and the chief stenographer at Scripps both remeasured and came up with the revised, smaller measurement.
The goal, of course, is to fix this while it is still reversible and while still asymptomatic. (I can still walk straight up a half-mile long steep hill quickly without being out-of-breath. But as I’ve learned, while that’s a blessing, it’s also a curse, especially if you aren’t constantly getting rescanned. Being asymptomatic can be a false-negative.)
That gets into a highly nuanced situation of timing, with a personal twist: My daughter is getting married on June 30. What’s a father to do? (Question for all: I’m curious how long it typically takes after surgery to get up and running, if there are no serious complications. I’m considered in good health and fairly fit. I know there is no one-size-fits-all.)
My primary cardiologist’s opinion is to rescan in three three months, at which point if the LV-ESV has expanded he said he will push hard for surgery. He also explained that these measurements, as evidenced above, are highly subjective and can bounce around.
Key to me is to make sure this caught before there are symptoms and permanent damage.
After reading these forums, it is obvious that there are exceptionally great surgeons and facilities around the country, including in my own backyard. Still, given that this is not just a valve or aorta, I’d like to go someplace where they do aortas in their sleep, which is why we probably would fly to Cleveland. (Never mind that the only non-stop is on cramped Frontier or an hour-and-a-half up the road for a broader selection from LAX.)
Next step is to send my images off to CC for a review by Dr. Svensson. Last time we shot our data his way, via another cardiologist I consult with – Eric Topol, is a CC Alumnus – the view was not surgical. That was 2 ½ years ago. My how time flies!
Oddly, having been monitoring this for 40+ years, I’m very much at peace with the prospect for surgery. Certainly, more at peace than my wife! ;-)
I have done enough research and reading (personal stories on Adam’s forums have been an invaluable part of the process) to know the good, bad and ugly. Will report back and add to the experience database of this valuable feed, when I know more.
Jennifer McInerney I was asymptomatic bicuspid aortic valve patient. It took me six weeks to recover. I am now three m ... Read more
Jennifer McInerney I was asymptomatic bicuspid aortic valve patient. It took me six weeks to recover. I am now three months post surgery and better than ever. Keep in mind that often, as in my case you think you have no symptoms but after surgery you realize how many symptoms you were actually experiencing.
Herb Greenberg Jennifer, thanks. I've heard that thing about asymptomatic being not so asymptomatic as it appears. S ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Jennifer, thanks. I've heard that thing about asymptomatic being not so asymptomatic as it appears. So, after six weeks, you're doing ok? That's impressive!
Debbie Moriarty Wishing you the best, Herb. I agree with Jennifer. I, too, thought I was asymptomatic! When my cardio ... Read more
Debbie Moriarty Wishing you the best, Herb. I agree with Jennifer. I, too, thought I was asymptomatic! When my cardiologist asked me if I was experiencing symptoms, I was shaking my head no while at the same time two of my daughters and my sister were behind me nodding yes! My cardiologist took their side! Lucky for me I have a new valve at this writing!
Herb Greenberg Thanks, Debbie. Loved your story. Sorry you had to experience it, but it made for a great read. If yo ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Thanks, Debbie. Loved your story. Sorry you had to experience it, but it made for a great read. If you can get through what you got through....!!!!
Bob Guzzo Hello Herb. I had an aortic valve replacement three weeks ago (tomorrow) and Thank God I'm doing well ... Read more
Bob Guzzo Hello Herb. I had an aortic valve replacement three weeks ago (tomorrow) and Thank God I'm doing well. Walking 40-50 minutes each day and doing some tasks around the house. Expect to go back to work a few days each week in one more month. Will see how that goes. In regard yo your being asymptomatic, I was very much the same prior to my surgery other than realizing that my energy level was declining. I had been tracking my aortic stenosis for three years and my last echo showed severe left atrium was severely dilated & I had increased left ventricular hypotrophy. My local cardiologist said no followup was needed. I doubted his opinion after seeing the changes in the last echo, so I opted to get a 2nd opinion from the heart surgeon whom I always knew would be eventually doing my surgery. His and his colleague's opinion (after reviewing my history and echo) was that I should not put off my surgery any longer, because if I waited, more irreversible heart damage could take place. He said the old school of thought was to wait until a person is symptomatic until surgery, however, many times irreversible heart damage may occur during that time. I wanted to put off the surgury until the summer, but he said it should take place ASAP.
I'm sharing this with you so that you too will know that postponing your surgery is fine provided there is no increased risk of you having irreversible heart damage. I'm glad that I didn't rely on the opinion of my primary cardiologist and relied on the opinions of the true experts at Florida Hospital (a High volume Heart Hospital) which does thousands of these surgeries each year. I hope sharing my experience may give you some addtional insight. Bob
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Herb Greenberg Bob, wow. 3 weeks. I wonder if aneurysm repair adds to the difficulty of recovery or if it is the luc ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Bob, wow. 3 weeks. I wonder if aneurysm repair adds to the difficulty of recovery or if it is the luck of the draw and the shape of the patient. (I'm guessing – or bracing myself – that because of a bigger cut it may be more painful.) On asymptomatic: Both of the cardiologists I see agree 100% with what you said. It'll be interesting to see what the surgeon says. I really wish I could have it done locally, or even in LA. But I'm just not sure. There is a surgeon at UCSD who is supposed to be exceptional but he also does lungs. Maybe I'm overthinking it. Anyway, glad to see you are on your way with little-to-no issues. This is quite the journey!
Bob Guzzo Yes Herb, it has been quite a journey! But well worth it! In regard to choosing the right hospital an ... Read more
Bob Guzzo Yes Herb, it has been quite a journey! But well worth it! In regard to choosing the right hospital and surgeon: from all the research I did over the last three years, the bottom line was to find the best Surgeon (one who is highly regarded and has successfully done thousands of similar surgeries) at a highly rated, HIGH VOLUME Heart hospital. I live in Florida, so in my case I drove 3 1/2 hours from my home & chose Dr. Accola from Florida hospital (now Advent Hospital). He's a "seasoned" surgeon (with extensive experience) who's done more than 9,000 Open Heart Procedures and more than 2,400 Valve Replacements. He was very confident that I would do well. I moved forward on his advice and had peace of mind going into surgery knowing that I had one of the best surgeons and heart teams (in Florida) for my type of procedure. Herb, my hope is that you too will find the best Surgeon and Heart Hospital for your procedure, so that you also will have Peace of Mind as you move forward towards surgery.
Herb Greenberg Bob, did you ever find a great resource on checking surgeons and volume? Medicare publishes SOME data ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Bob, did you ever find a great resource on checking surgeons and volume? Medicare publishes SOME data but it leaves a ton to be desired (access-wise.) So for your doc there is this: https://data.cms.gov/utilization-and-payment/providers/1760488431?page=1. He has done a huge amount of valve procedures. I have no idea the timespan of the CMS data. There has to be a database somewhere that sifts through this. Or in 2019 I would hope there would be. They can put a person on the moon, after all! ;-)
Debbie Moriarty I’d be so interested to find a link to this info!!!
Bob Guzzo Hi Herb & Debbie, I was able to find some data on The Society of Thoracic Surgeons Data Base:
https: ... Read more
Bob Guzzo Hi Herb & Debbie, I was able to find some data on The Society of Thoracic Surgeons Data Base:
https://publicreporting.sts.org/participant/31065
Adult Cardiac Surgery Database Public Reporting
Since its inception in 2010, the STS Adult Cardiac Surgery public reporting initiative continues to grow, both in the number of voluntarily enrolled participants and the composite measures offered. STS now publicly reports outcomes for isolated coronary artery bypass grafting (CABG), isolated aortic valve replacement (AVR), and AVR+CABG surgeries. The Society plans to report outcomes for mitral valve replacement/repair (MVRR) and MVRR+CABG composites in the future.
Search by Hospital:
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A tale some of you may find interesting: Now that I'm in the waiting room (I hope for a long time) I'm supposed to get imaged every six months, with an echo ...Read more
A tale some of you may find interesting: Now that I'm in the waiting room (I hope for a long time) I'm supposed to get imaged every six months, with an echo and a "scan." I have a bicuspid valve, aortic regurgitation and an enlarging ascending aorta, which at last check was around 4.5-4.6cm. The surgeon at Scripps would have preferred a CT scan but I opted for an MRA, to avoid the radiation - especially if I have to have these done fairly routinely. I have had echos for years, but ever since they discovered my enlarged ascending aorta several years ago a scan has been added to the mix. So far I've had one CT, which discovered the enlargement (at UCSD) and multiple MRAs in traditional 1.5T machines at Scripps, each MRA taking around 20-40 minutes.
Here's the interesting part: I learned Scripps had a new 3T MRI machine, so figured I would ask for that, instead. Thought it would be that much better of an image. And I'm sure it will be, but this head's up: The entire scan, on a very hard surface, took 1 and a half hours. You read that right 1 hour-30 minutes. That is a LONG time for an MRA.
I had read up on 3T machines, and from what I read I thought they would be faster. But before I got on the machine I was advised that it would be 90 minutes. Wow.
The good news: The bore is larger, nowhere near as claustrophobic. And your head is toward the opening. Bad news - that's an almost intolerable time to stay in one place, which countered the bigger bore. Even the techs agreed it's too long. Oh, and there is no music because a computerized voice gives you breathing instruction the entire time.
I just kept telling myself we'll get the best pictures, yet. We'll find out soon enough.
Hope this was helpful.
Herb
Robert Osmachenko Yes, that is very interesting. Does it take good pics? Thanks for the info.
Herb Greenberg I'm about to find out, Robert! Will see them on Thursday, and will report back.
susan kotansky OMG...I'm one year past OHS and I think you are very brave to ASK for an MRI, which to me is more anx ... Read more
susan kotansky OMG...I'm one year past OHS and I think you are very brave to ASK for an MRI, which to me is more anxiety producing than surgery! I have run out of two MRIs and avoided a third recently. I am very impressed with your acceptance. Hope all is well!!!
Herb Greenberg Well All - the pictures were fine but this MRA, on the 3T, I think was overkill. All we really want t ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Well All - the pictures were fine but this MRA, on the 3T, I think was overkill. All we really want to know is a more precise measurement of the ascending aorta. I'm checking in with the surgeon next week to get his gauge. I'm likely still well within pre-surgical guidelines. I was surprised when my cardiologist told me that the guidelines actually changed for BAV - to 5.5cm from 5.0 with certain caveats. Here's the link from a year ago December. Surprised he/I didn't know this. http://circ.ahajournals.org/keyword/thoracic-aortic-aneurysm Happy, healthy Holidays, all.
2010 ACCF/AHA/AATS/ACR/ASA/SCA/SCAI/SIR/STS/SVM GUIDELINES FOR THE DIAGNOSIS AND MANAGEMENT OF PATIENTS WITH THORACIC AORTIC DISEASE REPRESENTATIVE MEMBERS*, Loren F. Hiratzka, Mark A. Creager, Eric M. Isselbacher, Lars G. Svensson, 2014 AHA/ACC Guideline for the Management of Patients With Valvular Heart Disease Representative Members*, Rick A. Nishimura, Robert O. Bonow, Robert A. Guyton, Thoralf M. Sundt, ACC/AHA TASK FORCE MEMBERS, Jonathan L. Halperin, Glenn N. Levine, Jeffrey L. Anderson, Nancy M. Albert, Sana M. Al-Khatib, Kim K. Birtcher, Biykem Bozkurt, Ralph G. Brindis, Joaquin E. Cigarroa, Lesley H. Curtis, Lee A. Fleisher, Federico Gentile, Samuel Gidding, Mark A. Hlatky, John Ikonomidis, José Joglar, Richard J. Kovacs, E. Magnus Ohman, Susan J. Pressler, Frank W. Sellke, Win-Kuang Shen and Duminda N. Wijeysundera
Saw surgeon Jeff Tyner today at Scripps. Very nice guy. He said his measurements were different than the radiologist on my MRA - 4.5, maybe 4.6 on the ascending ...Read more
Saw surgeon Jeff Tyner today at Scripps. Very nice guy. He said his measurements were different than the radiologist on my MRA - 4.5, maybe 4.6 on the ascending aorta, NOT 4.7-4.8. That would suggest NO change over the past two years, assuming the MRA two years ago was correct. (Surgeons do NOT like MRAs.) With no known family history of bicuspid and/or aneurysm, come back in six months, get a CT scan with contrast. Into the waiting room, I go! His view was that, at the time of surgery - if my valve makes it until then - my bicuspid valve would clearly have to be replaced, as would my aortic root. Arch and onward are fine. Stressed that my adult kids really should get their valves checked. Thanks to all for listening and best wishes to those headed for surgery at this time.
Franklin Wyrick Hi Herb, I was born with a bicuspid aortic valve and have been watching it every year. The last two ... Read more
Franklin Wyrick Hi Herb, I was born with a bicuspid aortic valve and have been watching it every year. The last two years it seemed to get a little worse each year until last April my cardiologist said its time to fix it. I had been researching surgeons for a couple of years and decided on Dr. Deeb at U of M hospital. He has done over 10,000 OHS's and U of M has a 99 percent success rating. I had surgery 7-2-2016 to replace my valve and replace part of my ascending aorta as I had a 4.5 cm aneurysm. Its now about 5 weeks post op. and I am walking over three miles a day and feeling stronger every day. I have been pleasantly surprised about how little pain I have had. Good luck to you on your journey.
Herb Greenberg Franklin, thanks very much for that note. Very impressive and inspirational, especially given what yo ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Franklin, thanks very much for that note. Very impressive and inspirational, especially given what you wrote just after surgery. 3 miles in 5 weeks means you're feeling much more like yourself, I suspect. That's really great and very good to know!
Lilly Black Herb, I took my son for a heart scan, and he is fine! no BAV like me. My aorta measured 4.8cm when I ... Read more
Lilly Black Herb, I took my son for a heart scan, and he is fine! no BAV like me. My aorta measured 4.8cm when I had my aneurysm fixed/replaced with Dacron at my first OHS. I was symptomatic, chest pain and breathlessness. The entire ascending aorta was replaced. Best to keep on top of things, always best to stay 'safe'. I wish you the best.
Herb Greenberg I'm with you, Lilly. The first signs of symptoms and when they say "cut" I say where. I've spent year ... Read more
Herb Greenberg I'm with you, Lilly. The first signs of symptoms and when they say "cut" I say where. I've spent years lurking on these boards mentally preparing myself for the day. My guess is that the bite is worse than the bark, but based on most experiences, after the healing starts, it's onward!
First, I'd like to thank Adam for this tremendous site. I've been lurking for years. I bought your book MANY years ago.
My stats: I'm 64. In good shape. ...Read more
First, I'd like to thank Adam for this tremendous site. I've been lurking for years. I bought your book MANY years ago.
My stats: I'm 64. In good shape. Exercise regularly. Controlled high blood pressure.
My story, bear with me: I was first diagnosed with a "murmur" in the late 1970s. Since then, I've monitored it closely over the years, with an echo (often a stress echo) annually for more than 20 years.
In most of those scans, because of my body structure, the techs had a hard time getting a clear view of my valve but I was often told have a "probable" bicuspid valve. That was confirmed with an MRA in 2005 that was conducted for something totally unrelated to my valve.
Here's the interesting part: it wasn't until a few years ago, when we moved back to San Diego - after having been gone for three years - that I learned I had an aneurism of my ascending aorta.
In the short span of time we were gone my cardiologist had retired, so I went to UCSD and saw the head of cardiology. He suggested I get a baseline reading of my aorta. I had a CT scan (without contrast, at my request) and the results came that I was the lucky holder of a 4.6cm ascending aorta.
I find it pretty remarkable that over the years nobody suggested getting a better picture of my aorta, especially given my bicuspid valve. Glad I did! And I'm grateful to the UCSD doc for suggesting it. BUT... I subsequently switched doctors because the UCSD cardiologist left it to a fellow to break the news to me, with no follow-up by the cardiologist - even after I had ticked off a list of obvious questions the fellow couldn't answer. (Told me all I needed to know about that cardiologist!)
I then consulted with Eric Topol, a pretty well-known cardiologist who had moved to the Scripps Clinic from the Cleveland Clinic a few years ago. If anybody should be arrogant and unapproachable, it's Eric. But he's not. At the time he was no longer a full-time practicing cardiologist, and suggested I shift to one. I chose Chris Suhar, who runs the Center for Integrative Medicine at Scripps, whose late father had a bicuspid valve.
Given the size of my aneurism, Chris suggested a six-month rotation for an echo and then an MRA. I had my most recent MRA a few weeks ago.
Therein lies the story, and why I'm now posting here: It showed 4.7/4.8cm. Chris, who like Eric is not an alarmist, said it's time to see a cardiologist. Eric, who has become a friend, agreed.
Which is where I am now: I'm starting with a consultation this Thursday with Jeff Tyner at Scripps. A 70-year-old friend had bypass surgery by Tyner recently and bounced back within weeks as if he had just had a tooth pulled!
Scripps is a fine facility, and probably perfect for a bypass. And I'm going in with a fairly open mind but when it comes to a bicuspid valve AND an aneurism I'm likely to be pickier.
I'm interested in surgeons who do NOTHING but hearts. And then, those who not only replace aortas, but appear to have a focus or at least a passing interest on bicuspid valves.
It has been suggested I get an opinion from Lars Svensson in Cleveland. (He did the ascending aorta replacement on someone I recently was put in touch with; this person couldn't stop raving about CC, and called it the "McDonald's of aortic surgery.") There are a few other docs and programs I've run across that are impressive.
As is often the case, the decision to travel rather than have something like this done locally is paramount. (Do I really want to sit on a plan for 4 and a half hours from Cleveland to LAX and then drive down to San Diego? There are no non-stops.) But in the end the goal is to get the very best procedure possible, with the lowest chance of complications. (I realize there's no guarantee for that anywhere, and that many people have very successful complicated surgeries in hospitals throughout this country.)
There are quite a few good options/surgeons in California. I LOVE the very concept of bicuspid valve center created at Northwestern in Chicago. One thing I like about CC is the setup for family stay next door.
I may be six months away from surgery. I a year. Two years. Or two weeks. I have no idea, and hoping it's not the latter!
I'll post updates. I find the patient stories to be very helpful. The more detail, the better. I intend to add to that conversation.
Onward...
Petey Bello Welcome Herb & good luck to you!
This is a great site :)
Clare Auten Good luck to you. I found the site after the surgery so didn't even know about Cleveland Clinic. I ha ... Read more
Clare Auten Good luck to you. I found the site after the surgery so didn't even know about Cleveland Clinic. I had 10 days notice from diagnosis of bicuspid valve and aneurysm to surgery. Yes, it was a whirlwind. My kids were 4, 7 and 13. I managed and you will too. Cleveland Clinic is a great option if you are able. If not, I am sure you will find someone close to home.
Herb Greenberg Thanks, Petey! And Clare: Whoa! That's fast. We'll be fine. I'm surprised, as I read through various ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Thanks, Petey! And Clare: Whoa! That's fast. We'll be fine. I'm surprised, as I read through various sites and talk to folks how many people never knew ... until the last minute.
Shannon Gray Hello! I had my aortic valve "tweaked", as Dr. Sven son called it and my aneurysm fixed last Feb. I c ... Read more
Shannon Gray Hello! I had my aortic valve "tweaked", as Dr. Sven son called it and my aneurysm fixed last Feb. I can only say positive things about my experience. He is very much a skilled surgeon, and small talk is not his thing. Like I told my family, I'd rather have a skilled surgeon then a new BFF. I did have complications than landed me back me in the hospital, but it was nothing that coulee been predicted and thankfully I was still in Cleveland at the time. They have a wonderful concierge who can help with all of the travel questions. In the end, we are so blessed to have many skilled surgeons who have great experience just with with this type of surgery. Go where you've done your research amnd where you feel most comfortable. Best wishes to you!
Herb Greenberg Tanks for those comments, Shannon. I'd take surgeon over small talk. We're just starting the process ... Read more
Herb Greenberg Tanks for those comments, Shannon. I'd take surgeon over small talk. We're just starting the process so it's hard to say when or where. Hoping the when is MUCH later than determining the where, but also thankful I know there will be a when rather than having a surprise!
My advice - just go with it. Follow the protocol. The resilience of the human heart is nothing short of remarkable. Bark of the whole thing is worse than its bite.
And go see Adam's recent "dispelling myths" webinar with the folks from Northwestern. It was really exceptional, as was the support of this site.
Onward!!!
PS - 5 year echo tomorrow, so... 🤞 But I feel great. Reach out if you have any questions.