Mom was to have gone into the hospital for observation as the doc started her on Tikosyn and to have a cardioversion if she couldn't tolerate the med. This ...Read more
Mom was to have gone into the hospital for observation as the doc started her on Tikosyn and to have a cardioversion if she couldn't tolerate the med. This would have been the third anti-arrhythmic she tried. However, she called the doc and said that, because the side effects from Amiodarone and Flecainide were unbearable, she refused to be a "guinea pig" for the Tikosyn. No word on whether the doc will go ahead with the cardioversion or continue to treat her, since she is getting very balky about the interventions.
Meantime, she had another near-fainting spell in the grocery store. I suspect she's nearing the point where hospice will be her next move. While I've tried to be encouraging, it may be the right thing at this point. She is in the early days of renal failure, the anti-arrythmics are hard on her liver, and the side effects have been difficult (uncontrollable diarrhea, loss of appetite, and high anxiety). At least off the meds she feels well if she doesn't do much more than putter around the house.
Not sure what the lessons learned here are. Is OHS really feasible for those over 80? Did the doctors fail to take into consideration her generally poor health? Would the outcome have been better at a major heart center? Did her refusal to participate in cardiac rehab affect her long-term prognosis? Why has the a-fib become worse post-op? Why haven't the treatments worked?
I feel I need to be focused on what our next steps are and not waste too much time looking back. But as someone looking at valve surgery at some point down the road, I am not "heartened" by the difficulties Mom has faced.
Clare Auten Jean, I am so sorry to hear about the troubles your family is having. I will continue to pray for you ... Read more
Clare Auten Jean, I am so sorry to hear about the troubles your family is having. I will continue to pray for you and your mom. Best of luck with these tough times. I know I didn’t answer any of your questions buy keep us posted.
Rita Savelis I hear you Jean, and often wonder about the feasability of OHS for those over 80, although I know it' ... Read more
Rita Savelis I hear you Jean, and often wonder about the feasability of OHS for those over 80, although I know it's done a lot. There are so very many factors involved and often so many unanswered questions afterwards. You list a lot of them.
I ask myself questions all the time, questions that don't always have answers.
It is hard not to look back, and wonder if things could have been done differently.
I have much empathy for you and your mother.
Take care (and I hope that you are still teaching).
Jean Raber Thank you, Clare and Rita for your prayers and thoughts. Yes, I still teaching! I have moved into se ... Read more
Jean Raber Thank you, Clare and Rita for your prayers and thoughts. Yes, I still teaching! I have moved into semi-retirement, teaching a lit class and working one-on-one with students in the tutoring center three days a week. Teaching just one class per term leaves me lots of time to lavish on reading, preparing, and developing richer rapport with the students. So there's some good news. Hope you are both well! Having folks to talk to here about Mom and my own heart issues is so helpful.
Mom is in almost constant a-fib ... again. Another cardioversion, her second, has been scheduled for January 10. Meantime, Flecainide has been prescribed because ...Read more
Mom is in almost constant a-fib ... again. Another cardioversion, her second, has been scheduled for January 10. Meantime, Flecainide has been prescribed because she refuses to take Amiodarone. Flecainide sounds like another side-effect-ridden danger drug. Anyone have any experience?
Cardiologist recommended an ablation, but electrocardiologist went with cardioversion because of Mom's poor health. She has CHF and early kidney failure. She is also having chronic diarrhea, which is really getting her down.
The docs have asked me to be there for the procedure (of course I would be!) to discuss her condition. I don't expect good news, and I think they want someone there with her when they talk to her.
Christmas Eve is the fourth anniversary of her AVR. It's been a long, rough four years.
Clare Auten I took flecainide once, literally one dose, in the ER. I converted to sinus rhythm and wad sent home ... Read more
Clare Auten I took flecainide once, literally one dose, in the ER. I converted to sinus rhythm and wad sent home with a dose to take if the a-fib came back. It still hasn't. Sorry I don't have info on side effects etc but will continue to pray for you and your mom.
Jean Raber The a-fib has been a problem since surgery. Pacemaker, lots of meds, cardioversion that worked for a ... Read more
Jean Raber The a-fib has been a problem since surgery. Pacemaker, lots of meds, cardioversion that worked for a few months, but we're always back to square one as Mom gets weaker and sicker. I understand what her wishes are should a Big Crisis arise, but what we've got here are a lot of little crises that are gradually wearing her down. I don't know at what point she wants to ditch a lot of intervention and go for comfort care. I thank you for your prayers. I will need them.
Ellen Leng I'm on Flecainide now after "failing" getting off of Amiodarone at 6 weeks post-op from my mitral rep ... Read more
Ellen Leng I'm on Flecainide now after "failing" getting off of Amiodarone at 6 weeks post-op from my mitral repair 9/28/16. I notice some constipation and slow heart rate (have decreased metoprolol) as the only side effects, but I'm not on lots of other meds. To be honest, given the side effect profile, I'm happier with the flecainide. Best wishes to you and your mom.
Jean Raber Ellen, thank you so much for the info. Glad to know this med is working for you. So far, so good for ... Read more
Jean Raber Ellen, thank you so much for the info. Glad to know this med is working for you. So far, so good for Mom. She has had so many setbacks that she expects the "next thing" will just cause more problems.
Jean Raber ... And she' been taken off the Flecainide for shaking, and general malaise. So discouraging. Am goin ... Read more
Jean Raber ... And she' been taken off the Flecainide for shaking, and general malaise. So discouraging. Am going to try to arrange for more in home help for her, as she's just not taking charge herself. I don't see how she will be able to stay alone. Hard decisions coming soon, I fear.
I'm budgeting for medical expenses for next year now that Obamacare is on the verge of being overturned. Just got my statement for my yearly echo. $1636 (insurance ...Read more
I'm budgeting for medical expenses for next year now that Obamacare is on the verge of being overturned. Just got my statement for my yearly echo. $1636 (insurance company dickered it down to ($1230), plus $208 ($141) for the cardio to read it. (I do have insurance for now and will pay $435, which is a deal, comparatively speaking.) Anybody willing to share what their docs charge? Just for fun, the echo I had 30 years ago to diagnose the MVP cost $300. Times change!
Catie B Hi Jean. Whew, yours was expensive! I had one yesterday but it hasn't come through the insurance pipe ... Read more
Catie B Hi Jean. Whew, yours was expensive! I had one yesterday but it hasn't come through the insurance pipeline yet. Earlier this year when my deductible hadn't yet been met, my former cardiologist's office charged $585 and I paid $358.71. It looks like they did not bill for the interpretation/report, which is unusual.
Phyllis Petersen My local hospital billed 1,999 for my echo earlier this year, received 919.54. I paid $400 deductible ... Read more
Phyllis Petersen My local hospital billed 1,999 for my echo earlier this year, received 919.54. I paid $400 deductible plus $77.93 co-insurance; plus $217 (136.78) to read with my co-ins being $20.52. The whole thing has gotten incredibly complex.
Amy Steele Jean, I looked through some of my old bills from the cardiologist and he charges $425 for an echo. I ... Read more
Amy Steele Jean, I looked through some of my old bills from the cardiologist and he charges $425 for an echo. I end up paying $275 after the insurance adjustment. (This is the amount the insurance allows after their adjustment. I pay the whole $275 since this is part of my deductible. I usually can't get to the deductible maximum...) The echos are done at his office, not at the hospital. Hope this helps.
Jean Raber I shouldn't be surprised that these prices are all over the map. What seems to be a reasonable charge ... Read more
Jean Raber I shouldn't be surprised that these prices are all over the map. What seems to be a reasonable charge seems to vary from state to state and hospital to hospital. Echos are a LOT cheaper at the little little satellite hospital near me. And that's where I'm going next time!
Darlene Smith My cardiologist charged $600 but Mt. Sinai charged $2,500!!! Since I reached my catastrophic limit f ... Read more
Darlene Smith My cardiologist charged $600 but Mt. Sinai charged $2,500!!! Since I reached my catastrophic limit for the year, my out of pocket was $0 for both.
Bob Fessler That sounds really expensive. My echo about a year ago cost $554. It was not done in a hospital. T ... Read more
Bob Fessler That sounds really expensive. My echo about a year ago cost $554. It was not done in a hospital. The insurance company adjusted it to a Plan Allowance of $445.
Jean Raber Bob, that sure sounded expensive to me, too. I love my cardiologist, and the clinic is the best in ou ... Read more
Jean Raber Bob, that sure sounded expensive to me, too. I love my cardiologist, and the clinic is the best in our region. But, yeesh! Seems like I'm paying about two or three times what other folks are.
Phyllis Petersen And I get another in April, so will be back to paying the deductible and co-insurance again. Staying ... Read more
Phyllis Petersen And I get another in April, so will be back to paying the deductible and co-insurance again. Staying on top of our health is pretty pricey.
Jean Raber Phyllis, it sure is! It's also confusing because even if you find a cheaper insurance policy that pay ... Read more
Jean Raber Phyllis, it sure is! It's also confusing because even if you find a cheaper insurance policy that pays for the stuff you need, the hospital/clinic can jack up the prices and that affects your out-of-pocket expenses. Insurance companies do dicker for lower prices, but would be nice if there were incentives for hospitals, clinics, and drug companies to keep costs within certain parameters.
Phyllis Petersen I'm in a tricky position too. I have my insurance through a retiree policy with my old firm. If I cha ... Read more
Phyllis Petersen I'm in a tricky position too. I have my insurance through a retiree policy with my old firm. If I change insurance, I can't ever change back, and my insurance is not cheap. It just went up again for next year. Someone talked about insurance paying for Cardiac Rehab Phase II but not Phase III. Actually, after January 1 when I start paying copays and co-insurance again, Phase II will cost me $150/week! I'm not sure how long I can handle that. Phase III will be $50/month. It's so crazy!
Jean Raber I know these rehab programs aren't cheap and they're often covered at lower rates than other treatmen ... Read more
Jean Raber I know these rehab programs aren't cheap and they're often covered at lower rates than other treatments. I asked the doctor to give me exercises to do at home for my sciatica because I can't afford PT co-pays. So far the cheapo route isn't going too well ...
Phyllis Petersen I've had my sciatica back. I have a NMES/TENS machine at home that I'm using, which does help, but I' ... Read more
Phyllis Petersen I've had my sciatica back. I have a NMES/TENS machine at home that I'm using, which does help, but I'm waking in the night after meds wear off. I know the exercises, because I've been here before. With my copay now at $50, I'm not too quick to go that route either. Good luck with finding relief! Do you use Salon Pas patches? I've found them very helpful and Costco has them for a reasonable price.
Jean Raber Yes, I have used Salonpas for a pinched nerve further up in my back, and it did help. My GP suggested ... Read more
Jean Raber Yes, I have used Salonpas for a pinched nerve further up in my back, and it did help. My GP suggested putting ice on the lower back (I got an extra wide ice pack for the purpose, and that does help. But I live in Michigan and in December the last thing I want to do is sit on ice! Brrrrr!
Phyllis Petersen Even in Tucson, AZ at this time of year the thought of putting an ice pack on is not pleasant. I used ... Read more
Phyllis Petersen Even in Tucson, AZ at this time of year the thought of putting an ice pack on is not pleasant. I used one the other night when my hip bursitis was really bad. I can't take regular NSAIDs, so being able to put a low dose directly on an inflamed area I find helps a lot.
Cancer doc said today my blood cancer has been "stable" for the past 18 months, and, while the progression of this disease is unpredictable, it could stay that ...Read more
Cancer doc said today my blood cancer has been "stable" for the past 18 months, and, while the progression of this disease is unpredictable, it could stay that way for months to years without my having to go on chemo. Given that the heart problem is also stable, I feel like I'm in pretty good shape, like one of those "classic cars" from the 1950s. Let's say a 1954 Chevy Bel Air. Aqua. With that chrome airplane hood ornament. And a white hard top (cuz I'm white on top, too!). Maybe it's a little chunky looking, but it still has has good lines. There might be a few dings in the door, problem with the fuel pump, runs a little hot. But everybody's amazed that it still turns over in cold weather and looks as good as it does.
Yup, that's me today.
And, speaking of Bel Airs, dig that whammy board, sax, and piano solo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgHFxPGMg4M
Rita Savelis You are definitely a classy classic car, Jean.
Stay stable!
Kelly Weisgarber Good to hear. Love the classic car analogy. 🚙 Hope things keep running smoothly.
Darlene Smith Cars from the 50s are amazing, and you sound like you are amazing too! Loved the post!!!
Jean Raber Thanks, ladies. And look! Kelly even found a little car emoticon. Hope you are all feeling well in th ... Read more
Jean Raber Thanks, ladies. And look! Kelly even found a little car emoticon. Hope you are all feeling well in this run up to the holidays. I'm keeping things really simple.
Rita Savelis Keeping it VERY simple! I'm with you on that.
Talked to the cardio today. No change in the mitral valve; actually moved down from moderate/severe to moderate. I realize that doesn't mean I'm getting better, ...Read more
Talked to the cardio today. No change in the mitral valve; actually moved down from moderate/severe to moderate. I realize that doesn't mean I'm getting better, but things are stable, and that's good news.
Blood pressure remains good. Heart function is 70 percent and there is no ventricle enlargement as sometimes happens with MVP with regurg.
Because I expect to lose Obamacare under the administration, we discussed what things look like long-term, and he said he would bet that my valve is unlikely to need surgical intervention before 2019, when I qualify for Medicare (though that came with all the caveats that sometimes things can change suddenly and blah blah). But overall, a load off my mind, but leaves me concerned for others who rely on the ACA for access to insurance.
We also talked about an alternative care plan in case I lose insurance and need to pay out of pocket. He said he would agree to see me once a year for an ECG as long as I promised to contact him with symptoms. So my continuing heart care looks doable.
Complicating the picture somewhat is what he suspects is adult onset asthma/COPD. This runs in my family, and he urged me to talk to my family practice doc at my check up in December.
So: That leaves all bases covered except the blood cancer situation, and I have an appointment with the hematology oncologist next week.
FWIW, if anyone else is in the Obamacare system, a friend who is an insurance expert, tells me that Obamacare is likely to remain fully funded through 2017, and if no action is taken by the third quarter of next year, it will like be a "go" for 2018 as well, OR some clearer picture of the Obamacare replacement will be forthcoming by then.
Meantime, Mom called. She was assigned a new doctor because hers is on vacation. She really likes him and asked to be switched to him permanently. He told her she is in Stage I kidney failure (which means early stage), ordered more tests, and said that there was a lot they could to to help her. (Though whether she will follow that low sodium diet and stop drinking Ensure like water is anyone's guess. Doc said that Ensure is a high protein drink that is sometimes hard for those in renal failure to process.) She goes back tomorrow for the rest of the test results with Dr. Dreamy. Nice to see her positive about some things. She has her cardiology appointments in a few weeks, so we should know what the Big Picture looks like.
So juggling with all balls in the air for now.
Ellen Leng Lots to juggle for you! The ACA situation is really tough, so sorry you have to manage that with ever ... Read more
Ellen Leng Lots to juggle for you! The ACA situation is really tough, so sorry you have to manage that with everything else. Glad your mom is happier, I know what a difference that makes.
Rita Savelis I like the good news in your post and am happy to hear it. Your doctor sounds great.
Hang in there J ... Read more
Rita Savelis I like the good news in your post and am happy to hear it. Your doctor sounds great.
Hang in there Jean!
Jean Raber Thanks, girls! My cardiologist has been the bright spot in this whole scenario. Yesterday, it was cl ... Read more
Jean Raber Thanks, girls! My cardiologist has been the bright spot in this whole scenario. Yesterday, it was clear he had researched my blood cancer so he could better differentiate heart and cancer symptoms because some of them are the same. He asked a lot of questions about fatigue, especially. He has also been very supportive of the TMVR over OHS. He seems to like a challenge, is super calm, and my blood pressure is never up at his office like it is with every other doc. So I bought a double cafe con leche for the drive home.
Still trying to get answers from doctors. Mom is in a-fib. Family doc did some tests and put her on spironolactone, a diruretic they said would work better ...Read more
Still trying to get answers from doctors. Mom is in a-fib. Family doc did some tests and put her on spironolactone, a diruretic they said would work better than Lasix alone. My guess is that they suspect her kidneys are compromised because of the CHF. She lost quite a bit of water weight.
Family doc said he thought her a-fib was not "immediately dangerous" but was going to try to get her in to see the cardiac team sooner.
So still waiting.
She agrees she needs more in-home care. It will be up to me to arrange it, though. She seems not to care about doing anything for herself anymore. Mostly frets over not getting her hair done and the fact that the carpet pad news to be trimmed so it doesn't show.
Barbara Laurie Thanks for the update! I get focusing on what seems frivolous to others. I often cope by thinking or ... Read more
Barbara Laurie Thanks for the update! I get focusing on what seems frivolous to others. I often cope by thinking or expressing similar things😊 It seems strange I guess, but it helps! Praying tonight.â¤ï¸ï¸
Jean Raber I think she wants to focus on stuff she feels she has some control over. But, really, she isn't in an ... Read more
Jean Raber I think she wants to focus on stuff she feels she has some control over. But, really, she isn't in any shape even to trim the carpet pad.
Barbara Laurie 😄😊 Me neither ! Hang in there!!â¤ï¸â¤ï¸
No need to respond to this; just venting, feeling sorry for myself, and at my wits end to know what to do with my mother.
Mom is getting over two weeks' ...Read more
No need to respond to this; just venting, feeling sorry for myself, and at my wits end to know what to do with my mother.
Mom is getting over two weeks' worth of diarrhea, but is now weak and called today saying she could feel her heart skipping beats. Chest pain? No. Shortness of breath? No worse than usual. Any tightness in the chest? No. Pain in neck or jaw? No. Blood pressure? OK.
Tried to get her to call 911, but she griped about the hospital pillows, inability to sleep out there, the weird drugs they give her, and said what she really needed was for me to come up and get her cat some food.
So up I go tomorrow a.m. (I'd go tonight, but I can't drive in the dark.)
Is she dramatizing things to ensure I'll come and help her? She has a very elaborate hairstyle that she will not compromise on or let anyone else work on, and if it's out of place, she won't leave the house. Has she just not been able to get her hair done? Or is she really taking a downward turn? I wish I frickin' knew.
She canceled her electrocardiology appointments when she got sick (did she get sick because of anxiety?), and still needs to address what seems to be ongoing arrhythmia. But I honestly cannot get a straight answer out of her.
So tomorrow I drive 120 miles round trip for cat food delivery and an onsite looky loo at what's going on with her. And I just cannot do this anymore by myself.
She has a regular GP appointment Wednesday, and I am hoping to persuade her to let me go with her to discuss a better home care plan. She has someone coming in twice a month, but needs someone twice a week at this point. Am hoping the doctor might leverage her into senior services quicker than I can.
But she has never let me go to the doctor with her before.
She doesn't know I have blood cancer and mitral valve problems, and I may have to confess that in order to try to get her to agree to more in-home care. If my own health goes bad, I won't be able to do much. And I don't want to spring that on her suddenly in the middle of a crisis. Honestly, there's not much I can do now because of fatigue and compromised immune system.
I have my own cardiology appointment (rescheduled it once already to accommodate her), and I really need to find out what the last echo showed. So I won't reschedule it again. Also have my yearly hematology appointment coming up, and my blood counts are looking worse. They jump every time she has a crisis; the specialist said, yup, stress can jack your blood work around.
So, much as I really hate adding to her stress, I don't think it's fair to her not to know that I am not in the best shape and she needs more back-up. She has a couple of friends in town, but she doesn't want to be "beholden" to them, and would rather call me. She thinks calling me is OK because she always tries to give me $40 for a visit, which would pay for over two hours of in-home care.
So just trying to collect my thoughts with questions for her doc:
Is Mom in congestive heart failure? What stage is it? What does it mean to be in that stage? What can be done about it?
Does she still have a-fib or other arrhythmia? She refuses amiodarone. What is the next step?
Are her kidneys and liver working OK? (Tests have been wonky in past.)
She lives alone, and I have health problems and live 50 miles away. What in-home care is recommended?
Does she have any underlying problems that might have caused the diarrhea? What? Are tests needed?
Is there any palliative care that would help with symptoms? These include back, neck, and knee pain; extreme fatigue; general weakness; anxiety, sometimes severe; shortness of breath and wheezing.
Should she be receiving monitoring for any health problems? Could that be arranged through the Visiting Nurse?
Roseline Rosario She might be dehydrated...Gatorade? Electrolyte imbalances and meds can cause the problems mentioned. ... Read more
Roseline Rosario She might be dehydrated...Gatorade? Electrolyte imbalances and meds can cause the problems mentioned. And as for her stubborness...I have a mom just like her with plenty of fight left in her too. She's 85!
Darlene Smith I know you started with you are just venting, and that's good! Venting helps us cope. You will have ... Read more
Darlene Smith I know you started with you are just venting, and that's good! Venting helps us cope. You will have to decide what to do about your mom, but I think you are on the way to figuring it out. And of course telling her about you and your health issues is probably the best thing you can do for both of you. Thinking of you and hoping for clarity on your mom.
Jean Raber Back from Mom's today. She was in a bad mood, looked ashen. BP was quite low. Got her groceries, took ... Read more
Jean Raber Back from Mom's today. She was in a bad mood, looked ashen. BP was quite low. Got her groceries, took out her recycling, fussed around the house, listened, cajoled, gave her a list of questions for the doc, got her some lunch. By 2 p.m., she was looking much better, blood pressure up to normal (though still low for her), feeling perkier, less crabby. I felt confident that she would be OK (as long as she continues to eat) until she sees the doc Wednesday. If she cancels the appointment, will have to insist she go to the hospital to get checked out. She agreed to more in-home care, though I'm pretty sure I will need to follow up to make sure. Today was not the day to dump my health problems on her, but after my cardio and hematology checks this month, I will be talking with her about what we can and can't do for her. Winter is coming. Michigan roads will be dicey in a month or two. She needs in-town help. She seems to understand this. Oy.
Lilly Black In the area I live in CA, there are home health care workers that visit on a regular basis. I believe ... Read more
Lilly Black In the area I live in CA, there are home health care workers that visit on a regular basis. I believe they are paid for through Medicare/Medicaid. Is there anyway that you can maybe at least get a couple of days to yourself and have your mom looked after by a nice, trustworthy health care worker? just a thought....I know it must be tough. Good luck.
Wanda Mroz Oh gosh Jean. I'm so sorry you have to go through this and you are so far away. I too have issues w ... Read more
Wanda Mroz Oh gosh Jean. I'm so sorry you have to go through this and you are so far away. I too have issues with my Mom, but she lives with me so it is easier to handle. My mother is also more agreeable to my handling her meds and speaking at her doctor appointments so that she understands her issues. I'm glad for that. My mother is also aware of all of my health issues also however. My surgery, cardioversion, and being on warfarin and perhaps facing some minor surgery to fix a hole or do an ablation. She is aware of all of that. I think you should tell your Mom now. Do not wait. She needs to know these things and no she doesn't need to know at the last minute. Tell her. Perhaps it will help your relationship. It's better for both of you at this point. I know how you feel about having to do it all alone. But I think your situation is a bit more difficult than mine. Also ask the doctor for help. explain your own health issues and let them know you need some help with her. I'm assuming that you have no siblings that could help (same here). I hope things go well and that you do what is best. I certainly feel for you. I will keep you both in my prayers and please keep us updated. We are here to support you even if only from afar. Hugs.
Wanda Mroz Oh I posted before your update. Is your Mom on any mood pills... antidepressants, and such? My Mom ... Read more
Wanda Mroz Oh I posted before your update. Is your Mom on any mood pills... antidepressants, and such? My Mom was put on one in August when hospitalized and it has helped her mood, her crankiness and her constant worrying. She is less dramatic about things albeit still gets a tad crabby. Her BP is on the high side so that's the battle we fight with her meds, but she'll take anything as directed thank goodness. Prayers Jean.
Wanda Mroz Jean, I forget you are from Michigan. Where does Mom live? Once I'm retired which will be in a few ... Read more
Wanda Mroz Jean, I forget you are from Michigan. Where does Mom live? Once I'm retired which will be in a few short months, we will have to somehow meet up! :-)
Rita Savelis Jean, please feel free to vent anytime. It's always good to read your writing, even if the subject ma ... Read more
Rita Savelis Jean, please feel free to vent anytime. It's always good to read your writing, even if the subject matter is hard. I do hope you will be able to tell your mother about your own health at some point, but I know how it is and I understand not telling her as well.
You can gripe, even as you do all the good things you do for her.
Griping gets us through.
Do something nice for yourself. You deserve it.
Corey Sines Jean, my heart goes out to you and mother and the whole situation! Please vent here anytime you need. ... Read more
Corey Sines Jean, my heart goes out to you and mother and the whole situation! Please vent here anytime you need. I would let her know the total situation and hopefully she will accept some more assistance/care.
Sending prayers..
Jean Raber Thank you, everyone. This site is truly a gift.
Mom is on anti-depressants and an anti-anxiety med. ... Read more
Jean Raber Thank you, everyone. This site is truly a gift.
Mom is on anti-depressants and an anti-anxiety med. She was much worse before the drugs, and I do think they help some people, though they're indiscriminately and over-prescribed.
She does have a home care aid who comes in every other month. That's all she would agree to, but she has agreed to have someone come in once a week now. I also told her to ask her doctor about the visiting nurse and other services. Told her the doc might be able to arrange these things quicker than I can, and she liked that idea.
So I have high hopes for the doc visit for her tomorrow. Though those have been stomped on before ...
Not sure telling her anything is the right thing. Have talked about this with my brother, and we both feel she doesn't have long--maybe a couple of years given how she's gone downhill in the past year. But we could certainly be wrong. She says she's in CHF, but she doesn't remember who told her that. I suggested she get it confirmed by her doc and for him to talk with her about what stage she's in and how she should be treated for it.
In any case, not telling her jack is, to some extent, to save our own sanity. When she worries she becomes obsessed with her thoughts and needs constant reassurance and can't think about anything else, which means we can't just have our ailments in peace and quiet.
I have my cardio check-up Thursday and my blood check the 17th. Maybe wait to see how things look for me before deciding that, though. If I am getting worse, that is probably the time to have a talk with her.
Wanda Mroz Jean I hope all is going ok. My mom has scared me a couple of times including tonight. She gets very ... Read more
Wanda Mroz Jean I hope all is going ok. My mom has scared me a couple of times including tonight. She gets very sleepy and it seems like she's out of it but she was conversing, not in pain except for her bad ankle which always hurts and although her bp was a bit higher it wasn't off the charts. She didn't want to be checked out so she went to sleep because she was tired. Hoping tomorrow is a better day all around. My mom is on an anti depressant as well. Almost makes her not care., considering how upset she got over everything befor that's not a bad thing though.
Anyone have experience with this drug?
My mother's electrocardiologist's office called her about three weeks ago and told her she was having arrhythmia detected ...Read more
Anyone have experience with this drug?
My mother's electrocardiologist's office called her about three weeks ago and told her she was having arrhythmia detected from her pacemaker and to pick up some amiodarone they were calling into the drug store.
As of last Sunday, she had eaten nothing solid for days, could not walk to the front door without breathlessness, was nauseated, and her anxiety was through the roof.
She called the doc this past Monday and told her she would rather die than take the amiodarone, and the doc told her to go off it and come in for a consult in mid-October.
Even though the doc had Mom on the lowest "loading dose" and reduced the dosage quite a lot over the course of three weeks, this stuff just about sent Mom around the bend.
Mom was on this drug right after valve surgery, and it took her several weeks to feel better when it was discontinued. She had a similar crisis of nerves and nausea last time around.
Weird thing is that Mom was feeling quite well before the doc saw the arrhythmia and put her on the amiodarone.
I don't know what the next step will be other than that Mom, who is 83, says that she wants to make it clear to the doc that she wants more quality than quantity of life at this point.
I'm really ticked off that a doctor would order this drug, which comes with a boatload of side effects, without any instructions, an exam or other tests.
Diane Zeigler I was terrified of taking that drug. I was supposed to take it for 4 weeks after I got home. On day ... Read more
Diane Zeigler I was terrified of taking that drug. I was supposed to take it for 4 weeks after I got home. On day 25 I quit taking it. I swear it made my food taste bad and made me feel worse. My dad died in Dec. 1989 after having a heart attack in Feb. His death certificate said he died of of Amiodarone toxicity. I know that it stays in your system for a very long time even after stopping it. I know a low dose is sometimes needed but take as little as you can get by with.
Jean Raber Diane, thank you. Are you OK now? Did your doctor have you take a different drug?
Jean Raber Diane, thank you. Are you OK now? Did your doctor have you take a different drug?
i have read about the toxicity, and amiodarone is often called the drug of last resort. The doctor's office gave us no reason why she was prescribing this.
Seems it affects different people in different ways.
I was with her all day yesterday and tried to persuade her to go to the ER to get checked out. Her BP was OK, but resting heart rate was pretty high. She said she would go if she felt worse, so we are trying to check in with her every day or two, and urging her to call 911 if she feels worse. I will be back there over the weekend.
We are doing what she wants, but I have no idea if that's the right thing. In the past, we've been bitched out by the hospital for not action sooner, but my mother is very stubborn. How do you force people to get care they don't want? I'm not a doctor, and the doc has given her no guidelines for what to look for or to report. And she's darned if she'll let me go to appts with her. So distressing, never mind the guilt.
Sophia Ridley I refused to take it as I have already an underactive thyroid. Please get her thyroid function checke ... Read more
Sophia Ridley I refused to take it as I have already an underactive thyroid. Please get her thyroid function checked.
Corey Sines My Dad was on this drug for Arrhythmia, he felt so bad, I thought he was on a downward spiral toward ... Read more
Corey Sines My Dad was on this drug for Arrhythmia, he felt so bad, I thought he was on a downward spiral towards death, perhaps, at the time. He had the same breathlessness, and just super tired. It was on it a few months until he just couldn't take it any more, He could point to the moment when he felt so bad, back to when he started taking it. He saw a different Cardiologist and took him off and prescribed something different and cardio rehab. It has made a world of difference for him, he close to how he felt before that whole mess.
Jean Raber Corey, thank you so much. Exactly how Mom's experience with this has been. Interestingly, the doctor, ... Read more
Jean Raber Corey, thank you so much. Exactly how Mom's experience with this has been. Interestingly, the doctor, before she prescribed the amiodarone, asked Mom about cardiac rehab, which she has refused to attend. She has a lot of arthritis, but if this is an option, maybe she will bite the bullet. However, I do think there's a chance she has just given up.
Jean Raber Sophia, thank you for that tip. Will do!
Diane Zeigler I really have strong feelings about this drug. I think my dad would have lived had he not taken this ... Read more
Diane Zeigler I really have strong feelings about this drug. I think my dad would have lived had he not taken this med. I think it affected his lungs. He was so sick even though he survived the heart attack. This was 1989 so I am sure there is much more information available to the doctors now.
I had gone into a fib a couple of days after my valve replacement so that is why they put me on the drug. I was supposed to take it 28 days after returning home. I just couldn't take it after day 25. I have been fine and no more a fib. No other medicine was prescribed or needed. I do go to cardio rehab. Jean, keep us posted on your mom.
Jean Raber Diane, I'm glad you are OK. Mom has been off the amiodarone since Sunday, after about three weeks. My ... Read more
Jean Raber Diane, I'm glad you are OK. Mom has been off the amiodarone since Sunday, after about three weeks. My brother or I have been calling every day or two to make sure she's not getting worse. Yesterday she told my brother she felt slightly better. But, as mentioned, this stuff stays in your system a long time. I will be calling today or driving up to look in on her tomorrow.
Diane Zeigler Yes, the half life is 58 days so it takes a long time to get it out of your system. I really started ... Read more
Diane Zeigler Yes, the half life is 58 days so it takes a long time to get it out of your system. I really started to improve about 8 weeks after surgery. I had been off amiodarone for several weeks before I started feeling better, got my appetite and taste back, etc. Just give it some time.
Darlene Smith Even though I have no experience with this drug, I'm so glad I took the time to read this thread!!! ... Read more
Darlene Smith Even though I have no experience with this drug, I'm so glad I took the time to read this thread!!! I will make sure to keep this in the back of my mind for the future. Thanks all!
Diane Zeigler I suppose we should keep an open mind about the medicine. If they are still finding it useful to pre ... Read more
Diane Zeigler I suppose we should keep an open mind about the medicine. If they are still finding it useful to prescribe, it must be helpful to some people. I just have very negative feelings about it. It would be good if we could hear from anyone who has taken it and been helped and had no serious side effects.
Jean Raber Diane, I tried to find info that was positive without much success. Info from reputable heart surgery ... Read more
Jean Raber Diane, I tried to find info that was positive without much success. Info from reputable heart surgery centers warn about the side effects of this medication. I am hinky about anecdotal info, but the more I read, the more I think doctors should really have a sit down with patients before prescribing it.
Diane Zeigler I agree, Jean. A drug that potent needs the patient's understanding of what they are getting into an ... Read more
Diane Zeigler I agree, Jean. A drug that potent needs the patient's understanding of what they are getting into and what the possible deadly side effects there are. We really have to be so careful these days with what we are putting in our bodies even if prescribed by a doctor.
Roseline Rosario I was put on it on day 4 postop because of a fib...he read me a study in the journal of cardiology th ... Read more
Roseline Rosario I was put on it on day 4 postop because of a fib...he read me a study in the journal of cardiology that had good result of metropolol amiodorone and coumadin. I argued about metropolol because I have bradycardia and asthma, He dropped the metropolol. Amiodorone gave me while on loading dose the most horrid and vivid nightmares. Im no on maintenance for 4 more weeks but am scared because I can't budge the spirometer... also feel power surges in my fingers. My heart rate today which I have monitored tightly today has showed no afib.I really want to stop this med...have thought of taking half a pill till I see my Dr on tuesday
Mom, in her 80s, had a cardioversion back in June. She visited the "electrician" a week ago, and the good news is that she's still in normal sinus rhythm. So ...Read more
Mom, in her 80s, had a cardioversion back in June. She visited the "electrician" a week ago, and the good news is that she's still in normal sinus rhythm. So why does she feel so crappy? Doc seemed to think that lack of exercise is the biggest problem, and it's doubtful that she will start exercising now. She has many osteo problems, but some of these have worsened by being sedentary. She is becoming very frail and that takes a toll on her confidence and mood. And it doesn't help that CNN is on 24/7 and this is an election year in which everyone is pi**ed off, no matter what side of the political spectrum they fall on.
I'm concluding that the trauma of having your heart valves fixed surgically is really only half the story to quality of life later on. The other half is being willing to put in the work to regain as much of your strength as you can.
Cautionary tale. Do your cardiac rehab, folks, please. The therapists can adjust the exercises to work around your aching joints, and I've seen very elderly people with walkers doing their exercises while sitting in a chair.
Wanda Mroz Oh that sounds familiar. Today is two weeks that mom is home. Doing fairly well and will be going t ... Read more
Wanda Mroz Oh that sounds familiar. Today is two weeks that mom is home. Doing fairly well and will be going to physical therapy tomorrow for her second round. Hoping it strengthens her. However she wouldn't be in this position if she had exercised and not just sat around so much. Hard to convince some. She's also on some anti anxiety meds.. Those are ma,in her quite chill. For example if it wasn't for them she would have been a basket case today with me going for cardioversion. Instead she was rather calm and not concerned at all. She hasn't had any valve surgery but you are right. Keep moving ... It really does keep you stronger!💞
Jean Raber I have not told my mom about any of my health problems. When I told her I was seeing a cardiologist, ... Read more
Jean Raber I have not told my mom about any of my health problems. When I told her I was seeing a cardiologist, she started crying and telling me how awful the surgery is. So I changed my story, said it was a second opinion on HBP and have never told her that surgery is a matter of when not if. She knows nothing about the cancer. Will have to level with her if she gets to be more than I can deal with. But so far have been able to coax her to accept some in home care. Urgh. What a mess family can be sometimes.
Rita Savelis So sorry to hear about your mom, Jean. Being in your 80's is not the same as being in your 50's. I th ... Read more
Rita Savelis So sorry to hear about your mom, Jean. Being in your 80's is not the same as being in your 50's. I think everything gets harder. I feel much empathy for older patients and the recovery they have to go through. I feel for your mother.
I'm not sure all older patients can get back to where they once were, exercise or not.
I also feel for you in that you can't tell her your own health problems. And you are such a support for her...
Take care of yourself.
Jean Raber My mom has a lifelong history of mental health and alcohol problems. These things don't get better wi ... Read more
Jean Raber My mom has a lifelong history of mental health and alcohol problems. These things don't get better with heart surgery. Some days I feel sorry for her, too. Some days it's much more of a challenge to be sympathetic. I often think there are and have been things she could do to help herself. Lots of unresolved anger and frustration that can't be vented on my part for fear of making her worse. Lots of guilt for not helping her more. These relationships become more fraught with illness.
Barbara Wood It sounds like you are going down a tough road Jean, l wish you & your mom well. ( my husband & his ... Read more
Barbara Wood It sounds like you are going down a tough road Jean, l wish you & your mom well. ( my husband & his siblings would relate to your struggles with your mom, dealing with a loved one's mental illness can be so hard)
End of September am due for my yearly echo and then a check up with the cardiologist in October. September I'm also due for quarterly blood check to check on ...Read more
End of September am due for my yearly echo and then a check up with the cardiologist in October. September I'm also due for quarterly blood check to check on the status of the essential thrombocytosis, and a follow-up with the hematologist in November. December I have a regular old check-up and blood pressure check, so by the end of the year, I'll know if I'm still in holding pattern on all this stuff, or whether anything is heating up.
I seem to have "moved on" from the anxiety stage about these health realities and into a more philosophical frame of mind. Not to say the anxiety won't come back, but I'm enjoying feeling relatively free of nerves right now.
I feel so lucky to have dodged valve surgery and chemotherapy for this long. And I am deeply grateful to the students in my summer lit course for being such a great bunch. It was a small class, just 10 people, so a rare treat for me as an instructor to let students lead discussions and for me to get to know them as people. It was also such a pleasure to be able to share some great poems, stories, and plays with such a receptive audience.
Kate Watson Sounds like you've been having a great summer and have a great outlook! Hope everything stays status ... Read more
Kate Watson Sounds like you've been having a great summer and have a great outlook! Hope everything stays status quo for you.
Wanda Mroz Hoping it's all good on all your tests Jean. I'll keep you in my prayers. ðŸ™ðŸ»ðŸ’ž
Jean Raber Kate, my class was rejuvenating! Thank, you Wanda. You in mine as well.
Emily Rowley Wishing you well with upcoming appointments Jean. We are coming into sunning Spring here hehe 🌞 So ... Read more
Emily Rowley Wishing you well with upcoming appointments Jean. We are coming into sunning Spring here hehe 🌞 Sounds like lovely classes, are these class see you attend or teach?
Barbara Laurie Hi Jean!😀 Good to hear from you. Hope all your tests go well and the snow won't fly until you're d ... Read more
Barbara Laurie Hi Jean!😀 Good to hear from you. Hope all your tests go well and the snow won't fly until you're done! â¤ï¸
Rita Savelis Hi Jean, so glad to hear you are in a philosophical frame of mind. Good for you. Enjoy the lack of ne ... Read more
Rita Savelis Hi Jean, so glad to hear you are in a philosophical frame of mind. Good for you. Enjoy the lack of nerves! Also, your summer class sounds perfect. Take care. Think of you a lot, and always happy to see your posts.
Craig Gay Prayers for your tests to show no advancements. Your summer class sounds like just what you needed! Y ... Read more
Craig Gay Prayers for your tests to show no advancements. Your summer class sounds like just what you needed! Yvonne
Jean Raber Hi, Emily, I teach the class. But the students had so much fun talking about things, that I was happy ... Read more
Jean Raber Hi, Emily, I teach the class. But the students had so much fun talking about things, that I was happy to go off the syllabus and let them run sometimes. I had them read Shakespeare's "Much Ado About Nothing," which they complained about ... until they saw the Joss Whedon movie version, which is very funny. Then they really got into analyzing what the characters said and quit worrying about the archaic language. They were so inspired by that that when we got to the medieval play, "The Harrowing of Hell," they wanted to work together to come up with an updated version of that, assembling a cast of famous actors in the parts (Russell Crowe as Jesus and Arnold Schwarznegger as Satan) and imagining costumes and stage business. Then they did a table read of the play in character. Such creativity! Such hilarity! I haven't enjoyed anything that much since another class did a video of "Beowulf" with sock puppets. Who could feel bad amidst all that energy?
Barbara Laurie Jean! I need to be in one of your classes😄 Sounds like a great time was had by all! My kind of cla ... Read more
Barbara Laurie Jean! I need to be in one of your classes😄 Sounds like a great time was had by all! My kind of class, I just loved reading your summary here and it was delightful💕â¤ï¸ðŸ’•
Heard this the other day and didn't happen to see a link to it. Focus seemed to be on post-heart attack rehab, but benefits are tremendous. I truly think my ...Read more
Research shows exercise-based cardiac rehab programs help heart patients heal faster and live longer. But fewer than a third take part. Time and cost are the main barriers, doctors and patients say.
Rita Savelis Hi Jean.
For me it was really about being around other patients in the same boat that was helpful. He ... Read more
Rita Savelis Hi Jean.
For me it was really about being around other patients in the same boat that was helpful. Here in France rehab is free and available to everyone for whatever time needed, one can either stay in hospital (and go home weekends, or not) or do it as an outpatient. I remember thinking before my surgery that of course I would be an outpatient, but there was no way I had the strength (even after a month) to get there on the subway. So I was happy to live-in for 3 more weeks and take lots of naps. It was a really nice transition for me.
Because my kids are adults, and one can take long sick leave in France I felt very lucky.
We also had various information sessions at rehab, some on stress (filled with type A guys) and others on meds or diet...
But of course France is a dreaded SOCIALIST country...
Jean Raber Yes, I think the rehab set up was similar where my mom lives in the States. I had called to see about ... Read more
Jean Raber Yes, I think the rehab set up was similar where my mom lives in the States. I had called to see about a support group, and the doc told me that rehab served that function. Ha. Don't get me started on politics. For as clunky as Obamacare is, I would not be able to afford any of the current cardio visits and monitoring, never mind treatment for blood cancer. If O'care is repealed, that's pretty much the end of any medical intervention for me. I am 62 and have had a pretty good life, and I'm trying to prepare myself for the worst. Home hospice care is free if I can make it to 65.
Rita Savelis Actually, after rehab, I asked my cardiologist about support groups and he gave me a blank stare. I s ... Read more
Rita Savelis Actually, after rehab, I asked my cardiologist about support groups and he gave me a blank stare. I still really wanted/needed to be in a room with other people sharing their stories. Alas, that was nonexistant.
I am really sorry about the medical (insurance) system in the U.S. I think everyone should get a minimum basic good level of care rather than some getting fabulous (valet parking Cleveland Clinic) care and others getting nothing.
I don't need the BEST care, I just want care for everyone.
I feel for you, but I also know that you are an amazing survivor. My best to you and your mother. Take care.
Had high hopes for Mom's cardioversion, but she went back into a-fib a few days ago. We knew the procedure was not a cure, but hoped it would bring more long-lasting ...Read more
Had high hopes for Mom's cardioversion, but she went back into a-fib a few days ago. We knew the procedure was not a cure, but hoped it would bring more long-lasting relief than it did. Docs think there may be some pulmonary problems exacerbating things. Hoping that we will get some info on next steps soon. This is taking a pretty big emotional toll.
Clare Auten I am so sorry to hear that. I hope you are able to get some answers and your mom gets some relief
Jean Raber Thank you, Clare. No one wants to hear about the failures, I realize. We're going to regroup Friday, ... Read more
Jean Raber Thank you, Clare. No one wants to hear about the failures, I realize. We're going to regroup Friday, when she's had a chance to talk to the doctors and maybe get some appointments. (Meantime, I have been arranging home help for her with a local agency in between getting my kid off on a cross-country trip and starting summer teaching term. My pulse was 87 at my doctor appointment yesterday. Ha!) Her doctors are not good communicators with her or with each other. If you have docs who communicate well and are prompt in answering your questions with more than vague answers, thank your lucky stars.
Wanda Mroz I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope she gets some answers soon. I too thought she was home free. 😠... Read more
Wanda Mroz I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope she gets some answers soon. I too thought she was home free. 😟💞
Rita Savelis So sorry to hear about your mother, Jean.
Thanks for sharing, even "failures".
And yes, good communi ... Read more
Rita Savelis So sorry to hear about your mother, Jean.
Thanks for sharing, even "failures".
And yes, good communication is often missing - especially between doctors.
Take care.
Lilly Black Sorry to hear about your Mom. I can imagine how emotional it can be for you! take good care.
Jean Raber Thanks for the support. I do appreciate it. Mom fears she is looking at a long, slow decline, with in ... Read more
Jean Raber Thanks for the support. I do appreciate it. Mom fears she is looking at a long, slow decline, with increasing dependency, and I know, at times, she really regrets having the AVR. Understandably, her entire focus in life is now her health issues--what's falling apart, what hurts, and what she can't do. Anybody had any experiences with geriatric counseling in cases like this?
Deepika Prakash Hello jean.dont worry your mom will be perfectly fine and healthy.take care
Clare Auten Jean, I hope you can find some good geriatric counseling. I am facing similar issues with my parents ... Read more
Clare Auten Jean, I hope you can find some good geriatric counseling. I am facing similar issues with my parents who are 82 and 88. Praying for you and your mom.
Jean Raber Clara, I don't want to be a whiner, but it is very difficult to carry your own illnesses and try to h ... Read more
Jean Raber Clara, I don't want to be a whiner, but it is very difficult to carry your own illnesses and try to help your parents, isn't it? My mother doesn't know I have this blood cancer thing and she doesn't know about my bad mitral valve because she would be even more anxious than she is. But I'm sure she wonders why I don't do more for her.
Clare Auten It is definitely difficult to juggle life at times. My mom called the other day and needed a can of g ... Read more
Clare Auten It is definitely difficult to juggle life at times. My mom called the other day and needed a can of green beans from the basement. I felt guilty not driving the 20 miles to get it for her but I knew she would survive without it. I still feel guilty though. ;)
Jean Raber I hear you, sister. Prayers for you, too.
Wanda Mroz My mom is like that also... And her heart is fine. She is very aware of what she can't do anymore an ... Read more
Wanda Mroz My mom is like that also... And her heart is fine. She is very aware of what she can't do anymore and gets frustrated. Difficult to deal with at times. 💞
Corey Sines Jean, I see your in Michigan, You might want to consider a consult for you Mom with Dr. Marc Gillin ... Read more
Find professional and biographical information about Cleveland Clinic physician A. Marc Gillinov, MD
Jean Raber Corey, just saw this. Thanks. University of Michigan would be closer to us, but she doesn't want to g ... Read more
Jean Raber Corey, just saw this. Thanks. University of Michigan would be closer to us, but she doesn't want to go "deal with any more g*d d***ed doctors." Well, who does, really?
Mom is in her mid-80s, not very compliant with the four docs already dealing with her locally. They don't communicate well with each other, even though they're in the same practice, and they don't communicate with her well. They don't communicate with me at all, and she doesn't like me coming to her appointments.
Last month has been pretty good for her. I got her some in-home help once a week. Her anxiety levels seem to have gone down some.
At the risk of sounding like a terrible daughter, managing the daily stuff seems to have more of an effect on how well she feels than chasing down the latest treatment. She is happy and calm if someone is there to take out her trash and bring in the groceries. Going to strange places to see strange doctors throws her into a panic attack, and she's out of it for days.
Took Mom for the cardioversion Tuesday morning. They put her in a twilight sleep and zapped her once. Took about 15 minutes. They kept her for a couple of hours ...Read more
Took Mom for the cardioversion Tuesday morning. They put her in a twilight sleep and zapped her once. Took about 15 minutes. They kept her for a couple of hours for observation, and when she was alert, we grabbed a sandwich and went home for lunch.
Doc said it took one zap to put her in normal sinus rhythm (she never really shook the a-fib after her AVR three years ago despite meds, pacemaker, and etc., and breathlessness, fatigue, and anxiety had been getting worse for some months recently).
After the cardioversion, Mom immediately felt better. Anxiety lifted, and she was no longer short of breath or wheezing. She had some stinging on her chest where the "zapper" was, but otherwise no side effects.
Doc said her arrhythmia was not too bad, but that discomfort can be mild or more severe regardless, especially in someone in their 80s, as Mom is.
While the cardioversion is not a cure and may have to be done again at some point, the doc said she hopes this will improve Mom's quality of life and "hold her for a while."
Mom said she would not dread having the procedure again, and is grateful she doesn't have another bunch of meds to take. So despite the screwed up communication about the procedure, this seems to have fixed things in the short run.
My brother checked in with her this evening and said she is making lists of things she wants to do now that she feels better.
Clare Auten I am so glad this helped her feel better. I will say a prayer for both of you.
Barbara Laurie Yay Jean! I dreaded electrophysiology, but felt great afterward, So glad Jean has too! BestRegards⤠... Read more
Barbara Laurie Yay Jean! I dreaded electrophysiology, but felt great afterward, So glad Jean has too! BestRegardsâ¤ï¸ðŸ’•â¤ï¸
Jean Raber Thanks, everyone. I thought posting Mom's experience might help others who need this type of treatmen ... Read more
Jean Raber Thanks, everyone. I thought posting Mom's experience might help others who need this type of treatment feel less scared. Having persistent a-fib post-op is one of my biggest fears about OHS, but good to know this might work, at least temporarily, for many patients who don't respond to other treatments.
Sophia Ridley So good to hear that your mum is feeling better. Did they also do a TEE?
Jean Raber Thank you, Sophia. (Goodness, a big day in London for you yesterday and today!) No, they didn't, but ... Read more
Jean Raber Thank you, Sophia. (Goodness, a big day in London for you yesterday and today!) No, they didn't, but she had just had an ECG, so that might be why no TEE. The nurses did double check with the office beforehand to make sure, though. They were super nice and reassuring. Have always had a great opinion of the cardiac nurses at Mom's local hospital.
The receptionist at my mother's pacemaker doc called her out of the blue to come in for a cardioversion for persistent a-fib on Thursday. They told her someone ...Read more
The receptionist at my mother's pacemaker doc called her out of the blue to come in for a cardioversion for persistent a-fib on Thursday. They told her someone would call about it, but no one has. Setting aside the outrage I'm feeling that office staff who know nothing are assigned to call elderly heart patients with this kind of news ...
1. As I understand it, cardioversion is usually unsuccessful even if you take anti arrhythmia drugs. Mom is in her mid 80s.
2. Usually a TEE or other diagnostic is done to ensure the patient doesn't have clots that could cause a heat attack. Nothing like this seems to be in the works.
3. Mom thinks this will cure her a-fib. However, she is in CHF following AVR a couple years go.
Is this really a good idea? I need info asap. Thanks.
Cheryl Shute Walter I do think it's unprofessional for a receptionist to call about that kind of thing. If the doctor do ... Read more
Cheryl Shute Walter I do think it's unprofessional for a receptionist to call about that kind of thing. If the doctor doesn't call (and probably wouldn't), it should be the responsibility of the nurse practitioner or nurse. I had a similar problem after having AVR. I had a heart block and had to have a pacemaker. I kept experiencing AFib and flutters and was put on Coumadin (Warfarin) but had a serious allergic reaction to it. Now I'm on Eliquis. I was told that if this didn't put a curb to my AFib, that I would have to have a shock to reset my heart rate (cardioversion). Thankfully it is now under control. My Eliquis dose has now been cut in half, and I'm hoping to be able to get off it in a couple of months. I was also advised not to do the cardioversion unless it was absolutely necessary, and would suggest that you make an appointment with your mother for the cardiologist to discuss this in depth before going any further. I will keep your mother in my prayers :)
Jean Raber Cheryl, thank you so much for the info and prayers. Mom has been on anti-arrhythmia drugs, Eliquis, a ... Read more
Jean Raber Cheryl, thank you so much for the info and prayers. Mom has been on anti-arrhythmia drugs, Eliquis, and has a pacemaker which sends info back to the pacemaker doctor's office. This may be the logical next step, but I'm concerned that they want to do this in such an all-fired hurry. Moreover, the pacemaker doc is not the cardiologist, and the pacemaker doc seems to be looking only at the arrhythmia problems and not at the overall health of Mom's heart or her general well-being.
Barbara Laurie Jean, to respond to your s cond post, ..because they don't! If your mom gives you permission her Card ... Read more
Barbara Laurie Jean, to respond to your s cond post, ..because they don't! If your mom gives you permission her Cardiologst should be contacted. Seriously, my electrophysiologist had no idea I was having OHS when I did, nor did his office consider an appointment at their office to be counter intuitive when they wanted to schedule a follow up appt with the Dr while I was still in the hospital! So, unless every new med and new decision doesn't go through my Cardiologst, I don't agree to it. Maybe you can talk your mom in to at least seeing her Cardiologst first. Best Regardsâ¤ï¸
Sophia Ridley Oh my! i didn't have it as I reverted (probably on the shock of receiving my appointment letter) but ... Read more
Sophia Ridley Oh my! i didn't have it as I reverted (probably on the shock of receiving my appointment letter) but they were planning a TEE beforehand. I think that upset me more than the idea of cardioversion. From what I understand the more established the AFib, the more difficult it is to resolve. Cardioversion is the first on their intervention list, ablation is next.
Your poor mum! Receiving this news is a shock at any age. I agree with you that everything needs to involve her cardiologist. I need an MRI for my eye blacking out and migraines, the neurologist automatically referred to both my surgeon and cardiologist prior to the booking. Best wishes to you both.
Clare Auten My dad had a cardioversion last year at 86. He just turned 88 last week. The TEE and cardioversion we ... Read more
Clare Auten My dad had a cardioversion last year at 86. He just turned 88 last week. The TEE and cardioversion were performed at the same time while he was out (his doctor said that was standard practice here). It was a pretty quick process and took care of the a-fib for him. He is in CHF and has a leaky valve they won't fix due to his age. He also had bypass 15+ years ago. His pacemaker checks show no more a-fib.
Jean Raber Thanks, everyone. Clare, glad to hear that cardioversion worked for your dad! Mom's cardioversion has ... Read more
Jean Raber Thanks, everyone. Clare, glad to hear that cardioversion worked for your dad! Mom's cardioversion has been resked for Tuesday. The communication between her three heart docs (cardio, surgeon, electrician or whatever she's called who does the pacemaker) has been so bollixed up it's not funny. Mom had AVR two years ago, had a very long recovery, refused to attend rehab, had a pacemaker, has CHF, and has been dogged by a-fib on and off, so spells of weakness and shortness of breath. I also think she is overwhelmed with info and doesn't know who her point person is, plus stubborn and all info is strictly need to know until she needs to go to the hospital, then it's help, come quick, and bring copies of my will and medical POA! Pfft. All the stress she and her docs create are driving me around the bend.
Maybe this really isn't the place for this, so feel free to ignore, but looking for advice/comments, about my mother. She had AVR a few years ago at age 80. ...Read more
Maybe this really isn't the place for this, so feel free to ignore, but looking for advice/comments, about my mother. She had AVR a few years ago at age 80. She takes her meds, but refused dietary changes and refused cardiac rehab. She was diagnosed soon after her surgery with CHF, and she had a pacemaker installed a few months later. Pacemaker doc has detected more frequent and severe a-fib, and is scheduling some blood tests (she cannot tell me what they are) and an ECG for next week.
I realize that a combo CHF and a-fib is never good. She is becoming much more frail. Am trying not to jump the gun before I have the big picture here, though she refuses to let me come to the doctor with her, so I only know what she says.
My sense is that it is past time for us to think about whether she should continue to drive (for her own safety and that of others) and how to persuade her to let someone come in to check on her a few days per week and help with housework.
However, she is incredibly stubborn and uncooperative, and all suggestions get the Automatic No. She is a difficult person with no close friends, and I am unable to care for her in my own due to my own health concerns. In fact, just writing this is making my own heart hammer.
Clare Auten I am sorry you are having to deal with all of this. My parents are in their eighties. At 88, dad has ... Read more
Clare Auten I am sorry you are having to deal with all of this. My parents are in their eighties. At 88, dad has CHF, a pacemaker, a leaky valve, the works. Fortunately for us he is an agreeable patient. He laughs and jokes with the nurses, evendors thought he tells the sAmerican jokes over and over. I am sorry your mom is being difficult. I will pray that she starts letting you or someone you hire help her out.
Elaine Cutri When my father was in his early 80s (with CHF and mini-strokes) he said that they would have to pry t ... Read more
Elaine Cutri When my father was in his early 80s (with CHF and mini-strokes) he said that they would have to pry the car keys out his hand. Within a year of this comment he realized that driving was very stressful and difficult. He quite short time later and sold his car. My mother was the chauffeur for several years. Now my sisters and I need to talk to my mom about letting go of the car keys. Not sure we will be successful. I hope she realizes how dangerous it is in her condition. A car is a weapon. Best wishes in getting her to cooperate. Is there Uber/Lyft in her area? That might be a possible alternative. It is so handy, fast response and reasonable price for trips.
Mary K After spending most of my career supervising in-home care, if the elder does not want it, it does no ... Read more
Mary K After spending most of my career supervising in-home care, if the elder does not want it, it does not happen. Sometimes family members can convince the elder.
Re the driving, unfortunately, if she is mentally competent, there is probably not too much that can be done, unless the doctor is willing to become involved by writing a letter to the drivers' licencing bureau, or if you can convince the bureau to test her. At least that is the way it is in FL. Might want to give the bureau a call to determine what their procedures are.
Often, any interventions are only possible when there is a crisis, like a hospitalization for some reason. That is exactly what happened with my mother.
Please take a breath, your own health is important. It is not a pleasant situation, but this too shall pass.
Jean Raber I have tried to get through the communication barricades to talk with doctors, have left messages wit ... Read more
Jean Raber I have tried to get through the communication barricades to talk with doctors, have left messages with doctors, all to no avail. My main fear is that my mother will have a heart attack or stroke and no one will know. So best I can do is call her every day.
I have made umpteen suggestions and care plans, but the hospital discharge plan nurse and the local senior services have had it with her because she agrees to things, then cancels on a whim. Then the agencies call to bitch me out because she won't answer her phone. She is a recovering alcoholic and depressive, so she's hard to deal with. I can't stay positive about my own situation and deal with her stuff.
Sorry to vent. I don't want bad things to happen to my mother, and I try to do my duty as next of kin. But I am at the end of my tether.
Emily Rowley We have that problem with our Grandmother being stubborn, set in her own ways and not wanting to coop ... Read more
Emily Rowley We have that problem with our Grandmother being stubborn, set in her own ways and not wanting to cooperate when it comes to her healthcare. Even stopping people coming to her house to look after her/check up on her and clean. We know she doesn't want to go into a Nursing house so we give her a choice and say they are trying to look after you so you can stay in your own home as long as you want otherwise you would need to go to a Nursing home-you can guess what she chooses! To Cooperate. As for the driving test, I thought they needed regular testing after a certain age or maybe that's here. Try to take time for yourself to relax and be looked after, for you too are going through a lot.
Wanda Mroz I was fortunate when my Mom now almost 88 gave up driving a few years ago. I know how you feel, but ... Read more
Wanda Mroz I was fortunate when my Mom now almost 88 gave up driving a few years ago. I know how you feel, but take care of you. Right now my Mom has a spot on a lung that she is going through tests for... Pretty nervous for her. She lives with me in my home so that makes taking care of her a bit easier. I hope your Mom realizes soon that perhaps driving is not a great old idea anymore. Take care... Hugs💞
Rita Savelis Hello Jean. No problem venting. Vent all you need. I'd love to provide a solution, but I'll just say ... Read more
Rita Savelis Hello Jean. No problem venting. Vent all you need. I'd love to provide a solution, but I'll just say keep writing, and breathe.
Jean Raber Wanda, Hail Mary said for you and your mom. Bless you for being able and willing to have her with you ... Read more
Jean Raber Wanda, Hail Mary said for you and your mom. Bless you for being able and willing to have her with you. Rita, as always, good to hear from you. Some situations don't really have any good solutions. Sadly, this is one.
QUESTION 2 Not having chest pain, but feeling like someone is squeezing my upper chest while my heart is doing skippy beats. This is happening several times ...Read more
QUESTION 2 Not having chest pain, but feeling like someone is squeezing my upper chest while my heart is doing skippy beats. This is happening several times a day now instead of a few times a month. Also, blood pressure is tending to run low (100/58), and exercise makes chest tighter. What fixes it for several hours is full-strength coffee and a hit of something sugary. Then I feel OK to exercise.
I already see a host of doctors every three months or so, so I just don't wanna deal with another appointment, so planning to wait to ask about it all then.
Denise Campbell I think u should go to hospital if you're heart palpitations and tight chest.
Jean Raber Urgh, not going to the hospital because by the time I get there, it will have gone away, and they'll ... Read more
Jean Raber Urgh, not going to the hospital because by the time I get there, it will have gone away, and they'll think I'm a hypochondriac and the co-pay is high. There's no pain, plus it does go away with the coffee and sugar. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this. I haven't had surgery yet; am holding out for the TMVR because I have a rare type of blood cancer.
Cheryl Shute Walter Coffee and sugar is no cure for what this might be. I know you're trying to hold out for the TMVR, b ... Read more
Cheryl Shute Walter Coffee and sugar is no cure for what this might be. I know you're trying to hold out for the TMVR, but your symptoms sound like it is more serious. I would urge you to contact both your cardiologist and your oncologist immediately. Who cares if they think you are a hypochondriac? This is your life you are talking about.
Wanda Mroz Contact the Dr.... Please! Tight chest and racing heart is not good.
Kate Watson Jean I totally understand why you don't want to go to another dr appointment, I do get it. But I have ... Read more
Kate Watson Jean I totally understand why you don't want to go to another dr appointment, I do get it. But I have to agree with everyone else that you should get to a dr or ER asap when it happens again because that sounds potentially serious.
Christine Oliva Please Jean go. I know that feeling of telling a doctor you don't feel right and them not reacting bu ... Read more
Christine Oliva Please Jean go. I know that feeling of telling a doctor you don't feel right and them not reacting but go. I've been through that but its your life, go for it and I'm sorry to say don't let them talk you down. I use to work in a doctor's office so I know both sides and I still got mad at the doctors even though I now owe my life to them. Go Jean R. please.
Petey Bello Jean that's what the drs are there for. Please go!
Jean Raber I'm still here. Took my Albuterol inhaler (I do have some asthma) and today was better, a few flutter ... Read more
Jean Raber I'm still here. Took my Albuterol inhaler (I do have some asthma) and today was better, a few flutters, but no tightness. I guess the consensus here is to be on the safe side, so next time this flares up, I will get Raber to take me to the ER. But has anyone else experienced this? I do appreciate the concern.
Jean Raber I wonder if this could be stress; my mom has been having some trouble with her heart problems, and sh ... Read more
Jean Raber I wonder if this could be stress; my mom has been having some trouble with her heart problems, and she's needed a lot of reassurance. She gets upset really easily so I haven't told her that I'm sick. But trying to be there for her and take care of myself gets to be a bit challenging sometimes.
Cheryl Shute Walter Go to the doctor first! Have you thought about getting a home health care nurse? My insurance appro ... Read more
Cheryl Shute Walter Go to the doctor first! Have you thought about getting a home health care nurse? My insurance approved it. At first I had two a week - one for taking my stats, and the other for PT. The first nurse kept coming for about 6 weeks. She was great. If I had a problem, I called her personal number and she either talked to me on the phone about or came over. I kept experiencing Afib and flutters. She assured me that was normal, which calmed me down. That didn't mean it was not serious, though. She regularly checked my blood pressure, pulse, Coumadin levels.
Jean Raber Cheryl, I am so glad you had such great care! My mother had this for about six weeks post AVR, and th ... Read more
Jean Raber Cheryl, I am so glad you had such great care! My mother had this for about six weeks post AVR, and those folks were the best. I have not had surgery and continue to work so am not eligible for home care. As our population ages, I hope the need for visiting nurses gets more attention and action.
QUESTION 1 Eliquis, anyone? My mother has been placed on a low dose for worsening a-fib following AVR three years ago and CHF. She has a pace maker. She doesn't ...Read more
QUESTION 1 Eliquis, anyone? My mother has been placed on a low dose for worsening a-fib following AVR three years ago and CHF. She has a pace maker. She doesn't want to take Coumadin, but has heard that Eliquis is a new drug with potentially worse bleeding episodes.
Clare Auten My dad is on eliquis following a cardioversion for a-fib. I think his doctor preferred it over coumad ... Read more
Clare Auten My dad is on eliquis following a cardioversion for a-fib. I think his doctor preferred it over coumadin due to his age.
Jean Raber Hi, Clare. Why is Eliquis preferred for older people? Hope your dad is doing OK.
Cheryl Shute Walter I had AVR in December, and also got a pacemaker after having a heart block. I was put on Coumadin (W ... Read more
Cheryl Shute Walter I had AVR in December, and also got a pacemaker after having a heart block. I was put on Coumadin (Warfarin), but had an allergic reaction to it (I also am allergic to other drugs like Morphine, Penicillin and others). I was experiencing AFib and flutters constantly. I have beentaking Eliquis for a couple of months now and have had no problems at all with it. I cut my toe the other day, and it bled some, but I bandaged it and it stopped. I have had no further problems. I hope this helps.
Ruth Valenzuela I think I was told that they cannot give you eliquis if you have a mechanical valve and probably why ... Read more
Ruth Valenzuela I think I was told that they cannot give you eliquis if you have a mechanical valve and probably why they give it to tissue valve patients. I was on it for a while after my surgery and one day I cut the tip of my thumb off and it bled heavily for days... ouch... I'm not on it anymore.
Jean Raber Thank you everyone for the info. I've been checking on Mom every couple of days, and she has been doi ... Read more
Jean Raber Thank you everyone for the info. I've been checking on Mom every couple of days, and she has been doing pretty well so far. The pacemaker doctor simply monitors her device and calls in med changes. This is really confusing for someone over 80 who is juggling three doctors. However, she has an appointment soon with her cardiologist, so we have some questions about the Eliquis for him.
Cardiologist said today my heart sounded fine, no changes, get another ECG in six months. No heart damage or enlargement. So for now his best guess is that ...Read more
Cardiologist said today my heart sounded fine, no changes, get another ECG in six months. No heart damage or enlargement. So for now his best guess is that the essential thrombocytosis (my "other disease") is the cause of the increased lethargy, fatigue, and ocular disturbances. However, he said he needed to know if my "sinking spells" became worse or more frequent. The plan now is to stay as healthy as possible and to "coast" until TMVR is more routine. We did develop an alternate plan for dealing with the essential thrombocytosis in a conventional OHS scenario if the valve gets worse before TMVR is more widely available. And we looked at the all the possible side effects of drugs used to treat ET so that we could find the one with the fewest cardiac side effects. So, all in all, a good and productive visit. Plus he said he finds my case "interesting" because of the complication with ET. And who doesn't want to be "interesting"?
Elaine Cutri Thanks for the update Jean. Best wishes in managing your "interesting" case!
Wanda Mroz Very interesting! Lol... Wishing you all the best. Keep us posted
Jean Raber Thanks! My cardiologist is a great guy, knows I'm a control freak, and helps me feel that I'm helping ... Read more
Jean Raber Thanks! My cardiologist is a great guy, knows I'm a control freak, and helps me feel that I'm helping to drive the boat. Plus he will advocate for me with whatever surgeon I end up with if/when it comes to that. Today's news about the platelets is not so good. Big jump in the count, and if it jumps again, I will need to start oral chemo in June, so bless him for going over the chemo options with me. Hard not to get nerved up around Test Days. Hope to be able to deal with this with more equanimity in the future, as there's no cure for the ET, and testing will be part of the landscape for the rest of my natural life.
Well, maybe not celebrate ...
Sadly, heart valve problems aren't rare, but my other "ailment," essential thrombocytosis, is. Just trying to get the word ...Read more
Well, maybe not celebrate ...
Sadly, heart valve problems aren't rare, but my other "ailment," essential thrombocytosis, is. Just trying to get the word out to communities of caring people about Rare Disease Day through my blog. If you know someone with a rare disease (or you have one on top of your valve problem), here's the link: http://ethrombo.blogspot.com/2016/02/share-info-for-rare-disease-day.html
A blog with information and support for patients living with essential thrombocytosis/thrombocythemia.
Mary K I have CPS, also a rare condition. I now carry an information sheet to hand to nrw providers when I s ... Read more
Mary K I have CPS, also a rare condition. I now carry an information sheet to hand to nrw providers when I see them. If it is rare, people tend to discount it.
Jean Raber Hey, that makes us fellow "orphans," with orphan diseases! Do you have to take meds for it or what? W ... Read more
Jean Raber Hey, that makes us fellow "orphans," with orphan diseases! Do you have to take meds for it or what? What a good idea to carry around a fact sheet. I'm tired of people telling me how I don't look sick, like I'm some kind of malingerer. Meantime, here's another fellow "orphan" (with OI, osteogenesis imperfecta) who just won the NPR Tiny Desk Contest. It's lovely! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb1oCjiIu9M
This is an original song by Gaelynn Lea entitled "Someday We'll Linger in the Sun". Gaelynn Lea is a musician, fiddle teacher, and public speaker from Duluth...
Well, I guess I really have to face facts and stop pretending that the weather or cold snaps are making me sicker.
I'm at the point where I've cut back ...Read more
Well, I guess I really have to face facts and stop pretending that the weather or cold snaps are making me sicker.
I'm at the point where I've cut back my workload, and I'm still completely zonked when I get home. I don't want to do anything. I got sick of feeling like a slug this weekend, and tried housework. Hoo boy. this was just cleaning sinks, emptying trash, changing rugs, and doing some dusting. After 10-minutes I was out of breath, heart was pounding, and anxiety levels (which go way up when I'm tired) were through the roof. I also started getting hot-flash surges every few minutes, typical if I over-do. I had the thermostat turned down to 55 at one point until I realized poor Raber was walking around the house in a stocking cap and mittens.
What's weird is that I can still walk around the block if I get myself in some kind of rhythm. I can also use my exer-cycle for 30 minutes three or four days a week (though this is an exercycle for weenies without much resistance, just enough to keep the circulation going).
I need to have my labs (for the blood cancer) done Friday. My liver isn't working up to par (typical of with this cancer), and we'll see if there are changes that might explain this. Oral chemo is always hanging over my head, and if they start that, I'll be even more tired.
Then it's on to the cardio March 10 to see what the surgical picture looks like.
Anyhow, I'm just starting not to care anymore. I'm not scared or upset. I'm not in denial. I just feel like I want to detach from everything and let Nature take its course. I keep having fantasies about going to some remote location and reading books and petting cats until The Big One Hits.
Kathleen F. This sounds like a normal response to what seems like an overwhelming situation, Jean. I don't come ... Read more
Kathleen F. This sounds like a normal response to what seems like an overwhelming situation, Jean. I don't come on this site often any more, but I am grateful for the people who encouraged me this past year, and you sound like a wonderful person who has a lot of compassion. Please save some of it for yourself - and do whatever you need to give yourself the spark, the rhythm, the flow that makes life enjoyable. I think reading books and petting cats sounds wonderful. I'm reading a book right now, "When Breath Becomes Air" by Paul Kalanithi, a neurosurgeon who was diagnosed at age 36 with stage IV lung cancer. It gets into a lot of issues we all face on this site, dealing with our own mortality, the relationship between doctor and patient, and making meaning of our lives. Sometimes I like to make lists of things to look forward to, for those times when I'm really tired and need motivation or incentive to pull myself out of a funk. I've found that leveraging a structure helps - adhering to a time schedule that isn't too demanding, but especially, getting into the flow of something - exercise or a good book; a project (knitting?), etc., and it sounds like you're doing that already. I think the key is to not put too much pressure on yourself when you're overtired. But don't give up caring - ever!! We all care about you on here, and my thoughts and prayers are with you as you go through this challenging time. You are a great writer and I want to continue reading your blog entries! Have a wonderful week, and I'm wishing you good results for your lab test on Friday. Be well.
Kate Watson I just read your story and I feel such empathy for you, that's a tough situation to be in. I know ho ... Read more
Kate Watson I just read your story and I feel such empathy for you, that's a tough situation to be in. I know how you feel in some aspects in that I can feel myself declining just doing daily chores. I'm wiped out and short of breath frequently. It's a hard reality to face. But you did make me smile with your comment about reading books and petting cats somewhere far away. Maybe that fantasy means you just want a break from all of this, which I totally understand. I keep having fantasies of going to Mexico with my husband and drinking pina coladas on the beach all day. I hope that you don't give up- there are always options! Get multiple opinions on your situation if you need to. Wishing you well and sending you good thoughts.
Christine Oliva Jean hang in there. You are dealing with true storm front. I will always remember you were one of the ... Read more
Christine Oliva Jean hang in there. You are dealing with true storm front. I will always remember you were one of the first people to respond to my initial post and it really meant a lot to me. Now it is four months later and we both had our struggles but we are still here. Don't be so hard on yourself, I am back at work but sometimes struggle with being tired during the day & zonked out at night. Yesterday, I got depressed when someone asked me if I was sleeping well, they said I looked really tired. It put me in a tailspin, I'm trying, am I failing, is something wrong, etc. Its natural as it says in Adam's book, but felt my spirit drop (boom), so I can only image what you are feeling now. Jean, we care and pray that you find peace and comfort soon. BTW-I'm a cancer survivor so I hate cancer too. Go away terrible cancer and give our friend Jean a break!
Wanda Mroz Oh Jean... Please don't give up. We all care about you and are praying that you find the strength to ... Read more
Wanda Mroz Oh Jean... Please don't give up. We all care about you and are praying that you find the strength to fight on. Praying that your test results come back good. You are in a difficult situation and I can see how overwhelming it can be. Hang in there and try to remain positive... Go ahead and read a few books and let your mind wander... That's ok. Give yourself a break.... Your plate is full. I pray that you find the strength to fight on. Hugs....
Jean Raber Thank you, everyone for responding to my whiny post. I don't feel I'd be giving up so much as taking ... Read more
Jean Raber Thank you, everyone for responding to my whiny post. I don't feel I'd be giving up so much as taking back my life and living it on my terms. But I still have more info I need to gather from hematologist and cardiologist. Today, I am doing nothing until 1:30, when I have to go tutor in the Writing Center.
Kathleen: I just heard about that Kalanthi book on NPR! I have it on my wish list. Glad to get a good rec for it. My sure-fire go-to books are domestic suspense novels from the 1950s. Patricia Highsmith brightens my day. (Yes, I know this is probably weird.) I am also knitting a family of owls. God knows what I'm going to do with them. I can usually find people who want this stuff.
Kate: Zacatecas, Mexico. Let me know when you want to go. I have to drive or take the train because I can't fly due to clot risks. Weather is between 40 and 65 all year round, dry mountain climate, good air. Y hablo espanol un poquito. Donde estan los gatos y los libros, amigo? Cuanto es una taza de cafe con leche? Acepta usted el dinero plastico? I could probably get by for awhile on that OK. Sometimes when I'm mopey I go look at pictures of Zacatecas on Google Images.
Christine: I'm always glad anything I say helps anyone. That is nice to hear. Yes, cancer sucks. Mine is rare, indolent, but chronic. That means it will never go away, but can be managed. If you have to get cancer, this is the one to have. Lucky me! But, it adds to the "symptom burden," as the doctors say, a phrase that always makes me feel like a pack mule dragging around a bunch of problems to dump on other people. How are the doggies? We just adopted a stray cat. Congrats on getting off the Coumadin. That's gotta feel good!
Wanda: Prayers are always good, and I thank you. Best to you, too.
Kelly Weisgarber Thinking of you Jean, sounds like its enough to make anyone want to get away from it all. Praying for ... Read more
Kelly Weisgarber Thinking of you Jean, sounds like its enough to make anyone want to get away from it all. Praying for you. I hope today has been a good day
Lora Lee Peterson Thinking of you and praying for you, Jean. You are such a strong woman!
Jean Raber Kelly, thanks! One day at a time; feeling a lot of agitation for no real reason I can think of. Lora ... Read more
Jean Raber Kelly, thanks! One day at a time; feeling a lot of agitation for no real reason I can think of. Lora Lee, how are YOU doing? So nice of you to write here. Have been thinking of you lots.
Anybody: If you have TMVRepair with that clippy-looking gizmo, do you have to be on Coumadin 4ever?
Emily Rowley I've had 2x MVRepairs & only on Coumadin for 6wks.
Jean Raber Did you have open heart surgery or the transcatheter procedure? I may not be a candidate for open hea ... Read more
Jean Raber Did you have open heart surgery or the transcatheter procedure? I may not be a candidate for open heart.
Emily Rowley I had full Sternum Open-Heart Surgery. My scar is higher than last time. How come Jean? Last Op I was ... Read more
Emily Rowley I had full Sternum Open-Heart Surgery. My scar is higher than last time. How come Jean? Last Op I was only on Aspirin but this time on Warfarin. I have a booklet to write down my levels, dosage and food intake.
Wanda Mroz Open heart I was on Coumadin for 3 months. I don't know about TMV
Emily Rowley There were 91 year olds who had Open-Heart Surgery in my Ward! I was the baby of the Ward 👶
Jean Raber Ouch! I'm on the fence about OHS at 61. Having it at 91? Not a chance!
Despite age and infirmity, Raber and I are the saviors of yet another stray cat. Edgar is lolling around on a big pillow in the back room this morning, exuding ...Read more
Despite age and infirmity, Raber and I are the saviors of yet another stray cat. Edgar is lolling around on a big pillow in the back room this morning, exuding his handsome charm, having come back from the vet when an injury forced us to make a decision about him. The other cats look at me as if to ask, "WHY?" I try to explain it over on the blog dedicated to my other ailment, essential thrombocytosis. Maybe some of you can relate to the reasons why we decided to deal with taking in another creature despite a hazy health future. Read more here: http://ethrombo.blogspot.com/2016/01/getting-on-with-life-one-damn-cat-at.html
A blog with information and support for patients living with essential thrombocytosis/thrombocythemia.
Sophia Ridley Maybe your mission with Edgar was to limit the volume of future strays that might come knocking at yo ... Read more
Sophia Ridley Maybe your mission with Edgar was to limit the volume of future strays that might come knocking at your door??! Sounds like he's certainly landed on his feet finding you! :)
Jean Raber I sure wish the lame-brains in my area would Bob Barker their pets, but this is a rural farming area, ... Read more
Jean Raber I sure wish the lame-brains in my area would Bob Barker their pets, but this is a rural farming area, and spending money on cats usually isn't in the cards. I posted some pictures of Edgar over on the blog above. My son named him "Edgar Allen Paw" (E.A. Poe's "The Black Cat," get it?).
Cheryl Shute Walter It does sound like Edgar knew a good thing when he saw it. Thank you for taking care of him and limi ... Read more
Cheryl Shute Walter It does sound like Edgar knew a good thing when he saw it. Thank you for taking care of him and limiting his future offspring. My husband and I have made it our mission to adopt older rescue dogs, and have two loveys now.
Kathleen F. Love this! And you're a great writer. Thanks for posting!
Would like to know more about recovery and what the "new normal" is post TMV repair (as that is looking more likely for me). All I know is that this is less ...Read more
Would like to know more about recovery and what the "new normal" is post TMV repair (as that is looking more likely for me). All I know is that this is less invasive but results in more severe leaks post-op. Not really even sure what questions to ask at this point, so any info is helpful. You can post on my Guestbook if you want. Thanks in advance.
Gloria Savannah-Austin Hi Jean- looks like you are back in the saddle here....so good to see this post. I have been quiet fo ... Read more
Gloria Savannah-Austin Hi Jean- looks like you are back in the saddle here....so good to see this post. I have been quiet for a while myself. Still holding steady as she goes over here as well......have some new appts. coming up at the end of the first quarter of this year. How are you doing. What is the latest for you?
Still trying to tease out info about how essential thrombocytosis (blood cancer) affects heart surgery outcomes.
Bottom line is that surgical success (i.e., not just getting through the surgery alive without stroking out, but actually providing more years of improved quality of life) will depend not only on surgical skill, but the willingness of surgeon and anesthesiologist to work with the hematologist. So I will be somewhat picky in "shopping" for a surgeon within my HMO. Anybody who says "easy peasy" or "piece of cake" is dropping to the bottom of my list.
Meantime, I am doing well on weight loss, glucose has been normal for a year with dietary changes, and I bought a "bike to nowhere" (one of those stationary jobs) to improve circulation. I feel good for the shape I'm in, frankly, and am not eager to screw it up by having surgery right now. We'll see what the verdict is in March, when I see the cardio again.
Gloria Savannah-Austin Great plan Jean.....hope all goes well in March, and sounds like you know what you will and will not ... Read more
Gloria Savannah-Austin Great plan Jean.....hope all goes well in March, and sounds like you know what you will and will not put up with. So glad to see you taking care of yourself too.......those bikes to nowhere work the same....they get the cardio up and contribute to weight loss and will help you with you goals. Keep going dear one....put one foot in front of the other and just keep smiling and going girl. Proud of you and hope you are pleasantly surprised with good news in March.
I have a rare blood cancer (essential thrombocytosis), and for anyone else on here in the same boat, here are a couple of things I recently learned:
Fellow ...Read more
I have a rare blood cancer (essential thrombocytosis), and for anyone else on here in the same boat, here are a couple of things I recently learned:
Fellow ET patient said that, in addition to telling your cardiac surgeon all about your disease so he/she can address increased clot risk, it's important to have an extensive consult with anesthesiologist. Apparently the pump and accompanying meds used to circulate your blood during surgery can be a risk for those of us with ET or other myeloproliferative disorders.
Also, at larger hospitals, transcatheter repair or replacement is becoming more common for those with ET and related cancers because of clot risks. I was heartened (no pun intended) to learn that this procedure is becoming more common; am hoping by the time my mitral valve is ready to blow that this will be a possibility for me. My regional hospital already does TAVR and TMVR, and may soon expand those eligible for that procedure to folks with my particular ailment.
Happy New Year to all who are waiting or recovering.
Sophia Ridley Happy new year Jean! I really hope that they expand the scope of TAVR/TMVR soon.
My mother had emergency AVR two days before Christmas two years ago. She's OK now heartwise, but I know this can seem like a godawful time to be dealing with ...Read more
My mother had emergency AVR two days before Christmas two years ago. She's OK now heartwise, but I know this can seem like a godawful time to be dealing with this. Just want to offer some words of encouragement if you're recuperating or caring for someone:
It's likely you'll get the royal treatment if you're in the hospital over the holidays because they'll have discharged as many other people as possible. Staff couldn't have been nicer to my mother or to me. The people who ran the coffee cart in the hospital lobby offered to pray with me. Look for the good in people. It's there.
Concentrate on getting better instead of trying to cram in a lot of merry-making. My mother felt guilty about "wrecking Christmas." I kept telling her that if she'd died, it would have been a lot worse.
It doesn't seem like it now, but you will not believe how much better you're going to feel in a year. Plus you have something new and special to celebrate every holiday: your new and improved heart.
Phone calls, short visits, and notes are a really nice Christmas present for patients and caregivers alike. I remain very grateful not only to those who called to keep my mom's spirits up ... but the folks who called to see if I was doing OK.
Maintain a sense of humor (I fall back on David Sedaris's "Santaland Diaries"; works every time) and find some good (and optimistic) videos to watch on TV or some cheerful music.
Thanks to everyone on this site for the inspiration this year.
Emily Rowley That gives me hope. I'm happy to hear your Mother is doing well, I hope every stage of her recovery g ... Read more
Emily Rowley That gives me hope. I'm happy to hear your Mother is doing well, I hope every stage of her recovery goes well. Hope you are holding up okay.
GERD isn't one of the symptoms for my blood disease, so searched this site and found folks who are post-op with GERD, but I'm pre-op watch-and-wait, and have ...Read more
GERD isn't one of the symptoms for my blood disease, so searched this site and found folks who are post-op with GERD, but I'm pre-op watch-and-wait, and have been having moderate to severe GERD in the past week. Occasionally, my windpipe hurts if I take a deep breath. Is this something you'd take to your cardiologist before your regular check up? (My next one is in March.)
Blessed All Souls Day. There are many souls here I pray for daily: Tammy, W. Carter, Mary, Rita, Alma, Steve, Gloria, Sophia, Shirley, Jaqueline, Dan, and more, especially those having surgery.
Inspired by this site, I've created a blog for patients with essential thrombocytosis. If you know anybody who has it, please feel free to send them my way; there are only about 150,000 of us in the entire country with ET, so it's hard to find folks to share with: ethrombo.blogspot.com
Tammy Pilcher Jean, it's so good to see you here again, heart sister! I haven't had any experience with GERD, but ... Read more
Tammy Pilcher Jean, it's so good to see you here again, heart sister! I haven't had any experience with GERD, but I'm sure you'll get some responses from others. Thank you so much for your prayers. I continue to keep you in mine, too. I can only imagine what you're going through with everything happening at the same time. God bless you for starting a blog for patients with ET! I have so much admiration for people like you and Adam that give of yourselves to help others, even while you're in the middle of the storm. I know you will be blessed! Hugs for you, Tammy
Sophia Ridley Jean, I've had you in my thoughts too. So good to hear from you and I'm sorry to hear about GERD. I'v ... Read more
Sophia Ridley Jean, I've had you in my thoughts too. So good to hear from you and I'm sorry to hear about GERD. I've had a little reflux due to a nervous tummy and it seems to irritate my throat and can be rather distressing as feels restrictive. I've taken peppermint tea, and if doesn't work then I hit it with Gaviscon. I would certainly mention to your doctor as it sounds like it's troubling you. I'm sure others will be able to give more comprehensive advice.
Your blog sounds a wonderful idea. Lovely to hear from you .
Jean Raber Thanks, Tammy and Sophia, for your input. Yeah, that throat irritation is really uncomfortable. GERD ... Read more
Jean Raber Thanks, Tammy and Sophia, for your input. Yeah, that throat irritation is really uncomfortable. GERD kind of eased up this afternoon. Fingers crossed. I have a check-up with my GP next month (ack, what month do I NOT have a doctor's appointment?), so will track and mention it to her.
How are you both?
Tammy Pilcher I'm doing fine, Jean. Just passed the one year post-op mark. It really has gone by fast! I'm glad ... Read more
Tammy Pilcher I'm doing fine, Jean. Just passed the one year post-op mark. It really has gone by fast! I'm glad you felt a little better this afternoon! I hope your doctor will be able to help you get some relief. God bless!
Mary K Jean, it is so nice to see you posting again. Definitely they need to know about gerd. Are you taking ... Read more
Mary K Jean, it is so nice to see you posting again. Definitely they need to know about gerd. Are you taking a PPI? My GERD has almost disappeared since I had my surgery four months ago. before surgery, it was pretty bad. I still take omeprazole daily. I pray for your perfect health.
Jean Raber Mary K, no, just chewing some Tums or whatever equivalent is up there in the medicine box and cut way ... Read more
Jean Raber Mary K, no, just chewing some Tums or whatever equivalent is up there in the medicine box and cut way back on the coffee. GERD calmed down yesterday and today no problem. Very intermittent thing, but will let GP know about it.
Preliminary bone marrow results are raising more questions than answers. Until that mystery is solved, OHS is off the table as docs can't predict bleeding/clotting ...Read more
Preliminary bone marrow results are raising more questions than answers. Until that mystery is solved, OHS is off the table as docs can't predict bleeding/clotting problems and complications. Gathering info for a surgery that may never take place seems counter-productive right now, and I don't think I have much to offer in the way of info. So wishing everyone the very best and giving props to Adam for setting up this site. It's really a great place to get info and understand the range of outcomes for different types of valve surgeries. Will come back if/when I'm cleared for surgery.
Tammy Pilcher Jean, I'll be keeping you in my prayers. God bless you!
W. Carter WTH??? LEAVING??? You have a lot to add and show support for some of the folks here that you have bec ... Read more
W. Carter WTH??? LEAVING??? You have a lot to add and show support for some of the folks here that you have become internet buddies with! If that were true i'd be leaving too, my ohs is a done deal and a no subject here. I just hang around to wish people well.
Meredith Bray OK, we'll still be here when you're ready for us again. Enjoy your teaching!
Mary K Oh Jean, I wish that you could get some definitive answers about your situation. I know that it must ... Read more
Mary K Oh Jean, I wish that you could get some definitive answers about your situation. I know that it must be frustrating. I will miss your input here, heart sister, but understand your needing to pull back for now. Best wishes to you. I am hoping for the best for you. I have enjoyed your posts very much.
Jean Raber Everyone, thanks, and I will remember pray for you all every day! But, to W.C., I can't speak to the ... Read more
Jean Raber Everyone, thanks, and I will remember pray for you all every day! But, to W.C., I can't speak to the pre- or post-op experience as you can. I could clutter up the site with my sad stories about essential thrombocytosis and how my valve may not get fixed, but that's beyond the scope the group. Maybe I need to make one for folks with ET!
Elaine Cutri We're going to miss you! Hope you're back soon.
Doran Herritt Good luck Jean. Prayers and good wishes heading your way.
Jacqueline Cook I wish you the best Jean. I will miss reading your posts. Sending prayers and warm thoughts your way. ... Read more
Jacqueline Cook I wish you the best Jean. I will miss reading your posts. Sending prayers and warm thoughts your way.
Ginger Marine I am thinking of you each day, and hope some answers are around the corner!
Kelly Weisgarber God Bless Jean,
I hope you find some answers and some peace.
Gloria Savannah-Austin Thinking of you Jean. Have been quiet here myself lately. Just working out, taking things easy and tr ... Read more
Gloria Savannah-Austin Thinking of you Jean. Have been quiet here myself lately. Just working out, taking things easy and trying not to get my dander or BP up anymore. Hoping you are getting things figured out with your other health challenges and will be back soon. Sending you warm wishes and love for the holidays and a hope that all will be well and optimal for your highest good.
Ginger Marine Jean, I hope things are resolved soon. You are such a strong voice here!
After eating that Tim Horton's pumpkin muffin after my bone marrow test Monday, I experienced uncomfortable heart pounding. This has been happening more frequently ...Read more
After eating that Tim Horton's pumpkin muffin after my bone marrow test Monday, I experienced uncomfortable heart pounding. This has been happening more frequently in the past couple of years after I eat something high in sugar (which I don't do often, as I control a tendency to high glucose with diet).
Anybody else?
Tammy Pilcher Jean, I didn't have heart pounding after eating, but I did have shortness of breath. It didn't matte ... Read more
Tammy Pilcher Jean, I didn't have heart pounding after eating, but I did have shortness of breath. It didn't matter what I ate. Someone else had this and said it was because the heart has to work harder after we eat because of the blood needed for digestion. At least I think that's what they said.:-)
Alma Mater Yes, I have shortness of breath after eating, too. (I have learned that I don't feel my tachycardia b ... Read more
Alma Mater Yes, I have shortness of breath after eating, too. (I have learned that I don't feel my tachycardia because it is so normal to me, I must have become accustomed to it. The shortness of breath is my subjective experience of the racing heart beat. I don't know if that's the case for others or not.)
Tammy Pilcher Alma, you are probably right about having the racing heart so long that you don't notice it. I didn' ... Read more
Tammy Pilcher Alma, you are probably right about having the racing heart so long that you don't notice it. I didn't think about that, but I had been having symptoms like shortness of breath and chest heaviness for so long that I may have not even noticed if my heart was racing. Thanks for sharing that information.
WARNING: THIS IS LONG. I'm mostly just writing this to remind myself why I'm bothering with this test at all.
Bone marrow test is tomorrow. I have four ...Read more
WARNING: THIS IS LONG. I'm mostly just writing this to remind myself why I'm bothering with this test at all.
Bone marrow test is tomorrow. I have four more Ativan in case I get nervous; the hematologist said one may be enough, but take two if need be. I took one to see how strong they were. It certainly took the edge off life for a few hours. (Again, if you had a bone marrow and have a horror story about it DO NOT TELL ME HOW AWFUL IT WAS. I appreciate Tammy's and Rita's assurance on this, and I'm taking their experiences into the procedure room with me as my mantra: pressure not pain, pressure not pain).
Doc is going on the assumption that the high platelet count is essential thrombocytosis (aka ET. or thrombocythemia), a lifelong condition that can be controlled with oral chemo if the platelets get too high. But so far the blood tests haven't been that helpful. The JAK2 mutation they look for to confirm the disease was negative ... but it runs false negative about 25 percent of the time, hence the need to dig into the bone marrow (literally). Some other test sent to the university hospital wasn't done because the sample got lost (one reason I've decided against going to the university hospital for any OHS; I'm afraid they'll lose me!).
Anyhow,important to get a clear picture of what's going on to get a) the right treatment and b) best info to a future cardiac surgeon to see how the blood situation might affect OHS.
The pieces to the MVP puzzle are in place and being monitored by the cardiologist. Regurg is moderate to severe, but rest of the heart looks good, and repair seems to be in the offing unless things go south.
COPD/asthma may be something that needs another check to see whether that's a factor that should be considered with OHS. Am waiting to see the GP in December to raise that issue. Am hoping she might be able to deal with that without sending me on to a pulmonologist (please please please, sweet Jesus, no more doctors in this mix!).
Am hoping that the picture will come into focus soon. I've been at these tests for the better part of 10 months. I'm fatigued and lethargic a lot of the time, but I have a lot of good days, and I have yet to feel assured that any treatments on offing are going to improve my quality of life. However, I guess I won't feel that assurance until I have clear diagnoses. Once I do, I can make an informed decision about what to do, and use that info to help me for certain eventualities.
Anyway, that's the story for now and I'm stickin' to it.
Sophia Ridley Jean, I have no experience to draw upon with what you're going through due to high platelets, but all ... Read more
Sophia Ridley Jean, I have no experience to draw upon with what you're going through due to high platelets, but all I can offer are my best wishes for tomorrow and I hope that this finds you on the road to answers.
Alma Mater Jean, my prayers are with you that this test gives you some solid answers!
Liz Burroughs I hope that all goes well for you tomorrow.
Jean Raber Wow, didn't I'd get comments on this, but thank you very much everyone. I'm hoping that, if the test ... Read more
Jean Raber Wow, didn't I'd get comments on this, but thank you very much everyone. I'm hoping that, if the test isn't conclusive, it will at least lead my hematologist to the next step. She is very methodical and thorough. Helps to have faith in your doc.
Tammy Pilcher Jean, I'm praying for you to get good results from your test and yes, like me, pressure not pain. Go ... Read more
Tammy Pilcher Jean, I'm praying for you to get good results from your test and yes, like me, pressure not pain. God bless you!
Jean Raber Tammy, all done, just pressure and a few twinges, but nothing really painful, like you said. God bles ... Read more
Jean Raber Tammy, all done, just pressure and a few twinges, but nothing really painful, like you said. God bless you for you for sharing your comforting story. Your and Rita's sharing your experiences helped me a lot today. The staff was great. Pathologist was fast, chatty, and they got all the "material" they needed to get a good look, so hope the hematologist will be able to get more clues from that stuff.. So happy to have this over with! Today I'm in the lawn chair with coffee, a Tim Horton pumpkin mmmmmmuffin, and a book. Then back to work tomorrow.
Tammy Pilcher Jean, I'm so happy to see this!! I'm glad you have it over with, too. Keeping you in my prayers for ... Read more
Tammy Pilcher Jean, I'm so happy to see this!! I'm glad you have it over with, too. Keeping you in my prayers for good news from the hematologist. Enjoy the rest of your day ( that pumpkin muffin sounds good)!!