So. I have mentioned over all my posts.. depression has been an issue.. I dealt with it before surgery.. but after it has almost been unbearable some days. ...Read more
So. I have mentioned over all my posts.. depression has been an issue.. I dealt with it before surgery.. but after it has almost been unbearable some days.
I know sort of.. that this surgery has saved my life.. sort of... I have lost my real voice as of yet.. which is a big problem for me...
I have lots of aches and pains.. and lifting restrictions..etc....all a constant reminder of my defectiveness at least at this point.. as if the voice wasn't enough.. each and every time I try to talk it sounds off ...
I know in time the aches and pains will go away.. and maybe if I am really lucky I will get my voice back....
Here is what has me down.. and has had me down even before the surgery..
I am 44.. the bovine valve.. has something like 8-20 yr range.. as long as nothing else goes wrong.. So I am looking at probably 2-3 more replacements?....
The mech valve was more like 30 yrs.. but at 44 that isn't lifetime either..
Depression isn't logical.. or does it make sense.. So yes I know.. 8-20 yrs is a long time from now.. but....
I am so frustrated to have been forced to have this surgery because of the aneursym.. to replace a leaking valve... that could have waited. with a replacement that we know won't last too long.. especially with my active life...
And even if the mech valve were more of an option.. my lifestyle would have been at odds with it.. 4x4 ing.. motorcyle riding.. etc...
I often wish I had never known.. and rolled the dice.. I love my wife very much.. and my family.. and I did it purely to stick around for them.. but I am really struggling.. with feeling like there is a big clock on the wall with the hands counting down till the next replacement...
I honestly don't know how to deal with these feelings..? I am so sad some of the days.. it is all I can do to get out of bed... and go to work..
My wife is trying her best.. but knowing I will need more surgery... even years from know is my problem... The surgery has lots of drawbacks... for sure.. but my single biggest issue before the surgery was the breathing tube... and as it turned out it was the big issue for me.. the chest incision was not a big issue...
If that Dr.. had only come back in a few hours when I was awake.. it could have come out.. but he chose to make it a low priority... and as such I am even more petrified of ever having to have a breathing tube again...
Like I said.. not logical.. exactly... and I know that.. and depression isn't logical.. or as some people like to quip "just be happy"... believe me if I knew how to just flip the switch I would.....
For me the bad days aren't really pain.. etc.. Is is the mental aspect.. Am I alone in this? Does anyone else deal. or did deal with those feelings? Wishing they had just skipped it all and let nature take it's course?
Thanks
Kimberly Biddick John, I am truly sorry to hear that you are struggling so much with depression. I completely can rel ... Read more
Kimberly Biddick John, I am truly sorry to hear that you are struggling so much with depression. I completely can relate to how you feel the heaviness of the diagnosis weighing on you and how there is no "one time" fix for this condition we have. It's hard to live in the moment and enjoy each day when you have words like "aneurysm" and "valve deterioration" constantly in the back of your head. Have you spoken with your doctor about your depression or tried anti-depressant medication? Cognitive behavioral therapy is also amazing if you wanted to try something that does not involve medication. It focuses on looking at these negative thoughts and changing the way that we process them and look at them. It really helps with the constant obsessive and worrisome thoughts. I have gone both the anti-depressant and therapy route and found them most helpful for me to get back on track and be the wife and mother my family needs me to be. Best of luck and prayers to you. Please keep us posted with how you are feeling!!
John Pfeffer Hi Kim... Thank you so much... for your reply.. This has been hard... at 44 to get the news with no ... Read more
John Pfeffer Hi Kim... Thank you so much... for your reply.. This has been hard... at 44 to get the news with no symptoms... It was and is a lot to deal with.. At least if I had felt bad.. I could look to feeling better.. but I swear i felt perfect... I really hope you find the right dr with the right bed side manner.. I say my surgeon for 10 minutes the day before thanksgiving.. and 5 the night before.. that was it.. I have yet to officially meet my cardiologist. I saw him during the angio as he walked in scrubbed and said by the way... I am .... and then never saw him again.. he left it to his other people... :)
I truly wish you all the best..
John
Barry Van Gemert With advancements in medicine, in 10-20 years they will probably be able to fix you up with a much si ... Read more
Barry Van Gemert With advancements in medicine, in 10-20 years they will probably be able to fix you up with a much simpler procedure. So relax and enjoy every day you wake up.
Meredith Bray I can't believe you were driving after only 3 weeks! My surgeon told me to wait 4 weeks. I was so s ... Read more
Meredith Bray I can't believe you were driving after only 3 weeks! My surgeon told me to wait 4 weeks. I was so scared the first time I drove, just around the block. All those muscles I never even though about. At 2 months out, I was still out of work, and going to cardiac rehab. Can you go to rehab? That helped me feel a lot better about my health. I didn't feel too unhealthy until about 2 months before surgery, but I had 10 years since diagnosis to stew about it. Maybe your doctor's office or clergy member can suggest a good counselor? There's certainly nothing wrong with asking for help. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers, it gets better!
Jim Kelly-Evans Yea the uncertainty sucks but John we each have to play the cards we're dealt. Hang in there. "it get ... Read more
Jim Kelly-Evans Yea the uncertainty sucks but John we each have to play the cards we're dealt. Hang in there. "it gets better"...we're all in the same boat just different rows. Keep posting!
Bob M John, I am betting for you and others and me that the valve in valve procedure will avoid OHS next ti ... Read more
Bob M John, I am betting for you and others and me that the valve in valve procedure will avoid OHS next time. You are blessed that you have a family that loves you.
Cheryl Batzing John, I read all your posts and am so sorry about your experience. I had my mitral valve repaired on ... Read more
Cheryl Batzing John, I read all your posts and am so sorry about your experience. I had my mitral valve repaired on Dec. 16 and did worry about the ventilator as well. Mine was not a pleasant experience, but not nearly as bad as yours. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers about your healing, depression, concerns, etc. My personal thought is every doctor/hospital is different. I know nothing about where you went, your dr., so not passing judgment. But I think there are many places that take extra care of their patients. I'd suggest IF you have to have surgery again, consider those options. Sounds like your breathing tube situation was extreme, although I'm not a doctor. I spent 4 hours on the vent that I was aware of and that was 4 hours too long. Gagging, etc. I totally understand. I also started crying, which made drainage and then blocked my air passage and I couldn't breathe at all. Was probably the worst part of the hospital stay. As a believer in Christ, the main thing that got me through before and during the surgery was praying, and trying to not worry about tomorrow, but just live today to its fullest. A few people on this site posted those thoughts as well. Hang in there heart brother. Don't lose hope!
Wiliam Height John, I just read your posts and sorry to hear your experience. I also agree with what every has sai ... Read more
Wiliam Height John, I just read your posts and sorry to hear your experience. I also agree with what every has said already to help you with what you are struggling with and suggest you keep posting here to this family. Each one of your earlier post-op posts had optimism you have that in you and just need to find it now. You have a great wife support system. You are still healing and our bodies do amazing things to recover and you need to give your voice some more time. Go within and listen to the knower in you that dwells behind the thinker, which makes a lot of "noise", and know you have been fixed to live many more days and to give of yourself to others. Yesterday and tomorrow don't exist--be here now.
Duane Beeman John: My experience in life is that everybody deals with adversity and confronts their challenges an ... Read more
Duane Beeman John: My experience in life is that everybody deals with adversity and confronts their challenges and fears differently. Some people pray. Some people medicate. Some people rely on the comfort and strength of others. Some people retreat within themselves and meditate. Some use humor. Some get a game face on and go to war. Some people get angry. The common denominator is that under each of those circumstances they are channeling their fears and then transforming them into form and place where they can deal with them.......not eradicate them but deal with them. The trick is finding your way to do that. I've seen people panic underwater while wearing perfectly functional scuba gear. Nothing was wrong but they freaked. I've had to force myself to relax in those circumstances and channel my own fear. I've seen guys lose boxing matches before a punch was ever thrown. I've stood in the ring and watch an opponent fade before the first bell. Fear is a strange thing. It takes practice to channel it. And it takes time to find your way of doing that. Hey. I'm deathly afraid of heights brother. I'm absolutely scared to death on airplanes. But I get on them and I ride because i want to get to wherever they are going. Period. So I breathe deep, sweat and make an ass out of myself.....but I get on that plane every time. Find your way, bro. It's there. It takes time and effort but it's there.
Clay Rowe It's a kick in the crotch. But no regret or dread that you entertain today will buy you more time or ... Read more
Clay Rowe It's a kick in the crotch. But no regret or dread that you entertain today will buy you more time or help you with who you are right now. The die is cast...the deal is done.
We're in the same boat...near asymptomatic except "your heart gonna asplode...here's your bovine valve (my huge leap of faith ) and root job". We're buds.
I'm gonna have faith that I did what I thought was best at the time, that God assigned this to me (so we're in It together), that my decision was correct for MY life, and that On-X and TAVR are gonna make a beautiful baby valve for a low-invasive redo that'll be quiet with normal INR and last fortever. Or not...I might have to weigh new options for a full redo. Or I might get hit by a bus before I need it anyway. I can't let myself live in the future. I have "today' me that needs a lot of positive attention and work.
Now ask me how optimistic I feel when I'm 50 days recovery instead of 10 ha.
Praying God gives you peace and you set this burden down.
Joseph Ballett John I don't know how much i can say on here, you are not alone, there are many here that can help yo ... Read more
Joseph Ballett John I don't know how much i can say on here, you are not alone, there are many here that can help you face your demons, if you would like to chat privately let me know .Stay strong, and your mind is the key to your strength.
So..here I sit.. It's Friday.. 1/23/15... Glad another week is over... My energy level gets better each day... but still not nearly 100%.. Last night another ...Read more
So..here I sit.. It's Friday.. 1/23/15... Glad another week is over... My energy level gets better each day... but still not nearly 100%.. Last night another family bday celebration.. After working all day.. a late night is a struggle to enjoy and be fun... :( At my desk at work.. thinking.. 2 more ish hours... then the weekend...
It's been a long journey.. .voice still sucks.. well.. it comes and goes.. almost sounds normal sometimes.. loudness is still way off.. and apparently it is only the temp injections.. making any of this possible.. :( Worst part is the injections suck to get and only last 3-6 months.. so I don't have much time left before I will need more.. if the cord doesn't start moving..
As of last week.. still paralyzed.. :( My voice was seeming so much better.. it was really hard to have the cam down my throat again.. only to see it still paralyzed.. Trying to suck it up.. but the last 2 days have been some of the worst 2 days of the whole thing.
Wifes bday... Wow... I want to say I married an angel... This is my second marriage.. and I did much better.. the best!!
She has been with me for almost ...Read more
Wifes bday... Wow... I want to say I married an angel... This is my second marriage.. and I did much better.. the best!!
She has been with me for almost every appt.. She stayed in the room with me every night they let her.. She has been awesome.. Crystal has been the only thing that truly got me through this... and she continues to do that...
Especially with all that happened I wanted to make sure we celebrated her bday. So worked all day.. got the family all together at one of her favorite restaurants...
It was great.. too band my energy drops off so badly at the end of the day.. I made it.. but probably wasn't nearly as much fun as I normally would be at 10pm... :((
So glad we were able to celebrate with her.
Jan 5, 2015..
First day back at work...
I drive about an hour each way in traffic on a good day... so make for a decently long day..
Did pretty good.. ...Read more
Jan 5, 2015..
First day back at work...
I drive about an hour each way in traffic on a good day... so make for a decently long day..
Did pretty good.. at work.. stayed most all day.. Noticing that the cough is still here..
:( Never remembered my desk chair so uncomfy... :( and how my temp is on auto pilot.. :)
I am always hot.. even in the snow at like 13 degrees.. long sleeve shirt.. jeans.. perfect.. after surgery not so much..
I walk in to work.. hot.. and it is genuinely pretty hot most of the time in the am.. too much heater...
By 3 pm.. or earlier.. I am cold.. and it really isn't cold.. :( The hooded sweat jacket comes on.. and normally people walk by and say go home.. as I must look tired.. and cold... so I try to stick it out to the end of the day.. but don't always make it.. :( then 1-2 hrs in traffic home..
Once I am home.. I am pretty tired.. and ready for a quick dinner if at all and bed..
Still not sleeping well.. at all.. again the pain is ok.. but constant.. affecting my sleep for sure..
Meredith Bray Wow! I was still sleeping in and taking naps at 33 days! Take it easy!
Wow... just a little over 3 weeks.. has passed and I was afraid I wouldn't wake up.. I went to a family Christmas lunch.. I have to admit I was pretty miserable.. ...Read more
Wow... just a little over 3 weeks.. has passed and I was afraid I wouldn't wake up.. I went to a family Christmas lunch.. I have to admit I was pretty miserable.. No chairs were comfy.. I had slept terrible.. the night before.. I was feeling really depressed. My voice is till MIA.... I mean I can talk.. but I have to repeat everything... I like to talk.. so it is really hard not being understood.. In a large room with lots of people and noise it is really hard to be heard......
In many ways I just sat there not part of the conversation.. wishing I was home.. bad day for sure.. :(
Everyone who visited me had some kind of a cold.. hacking up a lung.. :)
On top of having to cough after surgery...I think I have a cold with an awesome cough... at least I am not sneezing much.. as anyone who has had the surgery.. knows.. coughing is bad.. sneezing is worse..
Bill Hendrickson This is great news for you and very good for me. I've had the same thought about waking up but I try ... Read more
Bill Hendrickson This is great news for you and very good for me. I've had the same thought about waking up but I try to replace it with a new future.
John Pfeffer Hey Bill... They swore.. starting it up is not an issue... :) They told me they have all kinds of tr ... Read more
John Pfeffer Hey Bill... They swore.. starting it up is not an issue... :) They told me they have all kinds of tricks... so... that was good... I wish you the best!!
Bill Hendrickson John I hope your voice returns and you start to have some good days. I'm hoping to come out the other ... Read more
Bill Hendrickson John I hope your voice returns and you start to have some good days. I'm hoping to come out the other side with my math and analytical ability intact,we will see. Best to you.
12/22/14.. Monday.. back at USC surgeons office.... I had enough of the sticky tape that holds you chest incision.. so I had peeled it off a few days before.. ...Read more
12/22/14.. Monday.. back at USC surgeons office.... I had enough of the sticky tape that holds you chest incision.. so I had peeled it off a few days before.. much better.. feels more human..
This appt.. is to take out the stitch in each of the drainage tubes I had... (6 in the chest 1 in the groin area)
Not much of an appt... Still not driving....so my wife has had to take off work and be my driver.
Talked to the PA about limitations. especially driving... I was 2 weeks and change out from surgery.. but being helpless was driving me nuts.. We negotiated to wait 4 more days.. which was still earlier than he wanted...
What can I say.. I started driving that night.. took my wife out for dinner.. been driving ever since..
In fact the next day I drove to my office and delivered some presents to my co workers.. wished them a happy holiday.. etc...
So now I have been home for 5 days... got a new recliner and couch for my days of working from home.
It's Monday 12/15/14... up early when my wife leaves ...Read more
So now I have been home for 5 days... got a new recliner and couch for my days of working from home.
It's Monday 12/15/14... up early when my wife leaves for work 6 am... in my recliner working.. I balanced my laptop on my lap.. and it worked .. but wasn't too comfortable for 8+hrs a day.. I ordered some items to make it more comfy.. a hospital table... a dual monitor arm for my laptop and a spare monitor.. wireless keyboard and mouse.. much better once it all got delivered and assembled.
Haven't sleep well at all at night.. The pain has never been horrible, but is constant.
Pain seems to come from just about everything.. breathing.. laughing .. coughing.. sneezing.. getting in bed.. getting out.. moving in the chair.. rolling over... you get it?
Not horrible.. but ever present.. I am a side sleeper.. so 30-45 min then I have to roll over.. because it hurts.. can't get comfy at all.. sucks...
Tried the recliner.. not much better...
Depression has been a constant battle.. some good days.. mostly bad
So I did leave the hospital on Wed 12/10/14. I was up early at 6 am like usual.. The last tube was out by 7 am.. and was told to be ready... I was ready.. ...Read more
So I did leave the hospital on Wed 12/10/14. I was up early at 6 am like usual.. The last tube was out by 7 am.. and was told to be ready... I was ready.. more than ready.. I ended up sitting there all day till almost 4pm before I got to leave. :(
So the next day I saw the ENT... got the cord injections.. waited for my 2hrs... not talking .. eating .. etc...
Tried out my new voice.. and almost cried.. no.. wait I did cry... I felt tired... sore.. worn out.. and my voice was worse that it was before.. I was so deflated.. and angry... and depressed .. I can't even explain it.
Before surgery.. I had a nice deep . loud voice.. I used to sing and I sang bass. After waking up I sound nothing like my old self..
I was already pretty depressed about all that occurred in the last few weeks.. and now one more thing broken...
Daniel Spurgeon I had to overcome some vocal cord atrophy also, and could not speak normally for two weeks post op. ... Read more
Daniel Spurgeon I had to overcome some vocal cord atrophy also, and could not speak normally for two weeks post op. After I was off the colchicine and had some voice therapy with Lisa Bolden at UCLA I got my normal voice back.
So it's Monday... 12/8/14... Up at 6 am for meds.. blood.. breakfast etc.. and move to the couch.. and started working on the laptop... Mon Tue.. and Wed.. ...Read more
So it's Monday... 12/8/14... Up at 6 am for meds.. blood.. breakfast etc.. and move to the couch.. and started working on the laptop... Mon Tue.. and Wed.. all day working.. The only breaks were lunch dinner.meds.. vitals.. etc.. ;)
Voice is still bad.. starting to get worried..
ENT Dr. comes in.. convinces me to let her put a cam up my nose and down my throat. I am a huge gagger and was pretty nervous. She said she would stop if I started to gag, but would be gentle. I let her because I was worried about my voice.
Unfortunately the reason my voice is funny is my one vocal cord (left one) is paralyzed. Turns out the nerve for the cord wraps around your aorta in your chest and my was damaged.
I was told it might come back it might not. It could take 8-9 months.. If not back by then it isn't coming back.
The short term solution is for injections in your cord to make it fat so that the one working cord can touch it.
I really didn't want those.. but my voice was an issue. She couldn't do it until the next day which meant another night in the hospital. I said no way... I am leaving.. Luckily I could come back the next day to her office.
So..Its Sunday... 12/7/14.. decided the vacation was over.. and time to get back to work. I was tired of the bed and the chair. I was lucky enough to have ...Read more
So..Its Sunday... 12/7/14.. decided the vacation was over.. and time to get back to work. I was tired of the bed and the chair. I was lucky enough to have a big room with a sectional couch and coffee table. So I got up and moved all the tubes etc over to the couch.. Fired up my laptop and started working. I spent Sunday catching up on work email and see what fires needed my attention.
The nurses and staff thought it was funny that I was working from the hospital.
Feeling good.. throat is still sore and voice sounds funny, but overall doing ok
So tubes are starting to come out... Catheter came out yesterday. They told me I had 6 hrs to pee or I would need it back in.. Talk about pressure.. but I ...Read more
So tubes are starting to come out... Catheter came out yesterday. They told me I had 6 hrs to pee or I would need it back in.. Talk about pressure.. but I performed.. :)
I got 2 chest tubes out.. so now only 4 more chest tubes. Feeling ok.. wanting to go home..
So finally got the breathing tube out... on day 2.5... Got moved to my step down (regular room) got some ice chips.. Man I never knew how good ice can taste. ...Read more
So finally got the breathing tube out... on day 2.5... Got moved to my step down (regular room) got some ice chips.. Man I never knew how good ice can taste.
Jim Kelly-Evans Hang in there, John. Hope it's smoother sailing from now on.
So I woke up in ICU breathing tube in ... and it was left in for almost 36 more hours.. Totally sucked.. Gagged for most of the 36 hrs.. and wrote notes on ...Read more
So I woke up in ICU breathing tube in ... and it was left in for almost 36 more hours.. Totally sucked.. Gagged for most of the 36 hrs.. and wrote notes on a white board. Worst part of the whole thing. Other than the breathing tube I felt decent considering
Jim Kelly-Evans What torture! Sorry to read that the tube was in so long.
I truly wish you all the best..
John
We're in the same boat...near asymptomatic except "your heart gonna asplode...here's your bovine valve (my huge leap of faith ) and root job". We're buds.
I'm gonna have faith that I did what I thought was best at the time, that God assigned this to me (so we're in It together), that my decision was correct for MY life, and that On-X and TAVR are gonna make a beautiful baby valve for a low-invasive redo that'll be quiet with normal INR and last fortever. Or not...I might have to weigh new options for a full redo. Or I might get hit by a bus before I need it anyway. I can't let myself live in the future. I have "today' me that needs a lot of positive attention and work.
Now ask me how optimistic I feel when I'm 50 days recovery instead of 10 ha.
Praying God gives you peace and you set this burden down.