Hi everyone! It's been nearly 7 months since my robotic mitral valve repair. Overall I think I'm doing well, although my recovery seems to have plateaued a ...Read more
Hi everyone! It's been nearly 7 months since my robotic mitral valve repair. Overall I think I'm doing well, although my recovery seems to have plateaued a bit. My migraines seem less severe, but I'm still having these strange gripping pains in various places in my torso. The pain "grips" and moves and usually shoots down one of my arms or down into a hip. Has anyone had anything like this?
Also, at my 6 month check up, my ejection fraction was scored at 53%, which was lower than right after surgery. Is it normal for the EF to go down after surgery? Will it come back up eventually, or is this the new normal?
Thanks!!
Andy
Susan Lynn Andy - I had a mitral valve repair via a mini-thoractomy and had some twinges of pain and numbness on ... Read more
Susan Lynn Andy - I had a mitral valve repair via a mini-thoractomy and had some twinges of pain and numbness on my right side that seem to have dissipated. I didn't have the intensity that you are describing or pain of any kind in my arms and hips. That may warrant a call to your surgeon's office.
I also had a drop in my ejection fraction after surgery and I took a combination of metoprolol and lisinopril to assist in heart remodeling - according to my cardiologist, my heart had to acclimate to pumping more blood after surgery. There was improvement after a few months and I stayed on for several more. I will find out my EF next Tuesday at my first annual appointment with my surgeon.
All the best to you.
Phyllis Petersen I had quite a bit of pain in the beginning, but I think I had mostly numbness in spots by this point. ... Read more
Phyllis Petersen I had quite a bit of pain in the beginning, but I think I had mostly numbness in spots by this point. Be sure to discuss it with your doctor to make sure there isn't anything else going on.
I am now two months post-op from my mitral valve repair and I am doing great in all aspects, except... I'm having LOTS of migraines with aura. Initially, I ...Read more
I am now two months post-op from my mitral valve repair and I am doing great in all aspects, except... I'm having LOTS of migraines with aura. Initially, I see flashing/vibrating lines for about and can't focus on objects. After about 30-45 minutes the lines go away, the headache kicks in. I used to get maybe one or two per year, but now after the mitral valve surgery, I average 2-3 per week--sometimes twice per day. Has anyone else had this problem after heart valve surgery? Did you figure out how to prevent them? Did they eventually go away? Thanks!
Susan Lynn Andrew - I'm a frequent migraine sufferer, but I've actually had fewer headaches since my MV repair. ... Read more
Susan Lynn Andrew - I'm a frequent migraine sufferer, but I've actually had fewer headaches since my MV repair. It could be because I'm still on a low dose of metoprolol, which is a beta blocker. If you haven't taken Imitrex or it's generic, also a beta blocker, you might want to consider it. The key is taking it as soon as the symptoms are starting. Works like a charm for me! Best of luck.
Ellen Leng I never had migraines, but developed ophthalmic migraine right after my mitral surgery 21 months ago. ... Read more
Ellen Leng I never had migraines, but developed ophthalmic migraine right after my mitral surgery 21 months ago. I had aura, but never headache. It was very noticeable for several months, but is now down to less than 1 per month.
Because I did not get headaches, I never really tried to stop them. The aura would last 15-30 minutes and seemed to be associated with my computer use.
What I can tell you is that this is not a rare event after valve surgery, and that things do get back to normal, but it takes time.
Talk to your Cardiologist about whether you can use triptans when the aura starts in order to avoid the headache.
Best,
Ellen
Vanessa Corwin Hi Andrew, I too got the auras, but with no headache, after my minimally invasive mitral valve repair ... Read more
Vanessa Corwin Hi Andrew, I too got the auras, but with no headache, after my minimally invasive mitral valve repair, They were more frequent after the surgery but diminished over time. It's been a little over a year since my surgery, and I have them maybe once every few months and they last for about 10 mins. Definitely discuss with your cardiologist just for peace of mind. I'm on Cardizem (also good for migraines) and my cardiologist and neurologist think it may help keep them at bay. My surgeon also said it is not uncommon. I wouldn't worry about them.
Kirk Bepler It could be the medication your on, I get dizzy and some double vision now and again and goes away in ... Read more
Kirk Bepler It could be the medication your on, I get dizzy and some double vision now and again and goes away in about 5 mins. I asked the Doctor about it and he said its more or less the medication, as I wing off of it I should see it decrease and go away.
Carmel Robertson I was a migraine sufferer but they stopped as I got older. However, after OHS, I got ocular migraines ... Read more
Carmel Robertson I was a migraine sufferer but they stopped as I got older. However, after OHS, I got ocular migraines every day sometimes twice a day for months. They are now less frequent (3-4 times a week). I’m four and half months past surgery and feel great apart from the migraines. Mine seemed to be caused by overdoing things like too much exercise or lack of sleep. My cardiologist, surgeon and neurologist all assure me they will eventually go.
Rose Madura Yes, I had them before surgery off and on but after surgery it happened more often. They are less fr ... Read more
Rose Madura Yes, I had them before surgery off and on but after surgery it happened more often. They are less frequent so hopefully you'll feel better soon.
Marie Myers Yup. I was a migraineur already, but after OHS the optical migraines came by the dozens. They gradual ... Read more
Marie Myers Yup. I was a migraineur already, but after OHS the optical migraines came by the dozens. They gradually subsided. Now at 15 months post surgery, I rarely have them.
Andrew Venuto Thanks everyone for the great comments!
Linda Griffin I had mitral valve repair 7 weeks ago. I had 6 to 12 ocular migranes per year (aura, no pain) since ... Read more
Linda Griffin I had mitral valve repair 7 weeks ago. I had 6 to 12 ocular migranes per year (aura, no pain) since 2006. Since the surgery I've had around 14. The surgeon told me they would go away eventually and to drink more water. They are annoying because if I am driving I have to pull over. They last exactly 20 minutes.
Phyllis Petersen I had the flashing lights (I still get them), but usually don't get the pain. My migraines went down ... Read more
Phyllis Petersen I had the flashing lights (I still get them), but usually don't get the pain. My migraines went down to nil several years ago, but then I'm a bit older than you. I hope they fade as you recover.
I am now 5 days post-op! (time flies). Dr. Smith at The Heart Hospital Baylor Plano performed a successful repair on my Barlow mitral valve(20 new gortex chords) ...Read more
I am now 5 days post-op! (time flies). Dr. Smith at The Heart Hospital Baylor Plano performed a successful repair on my Barlow mitral valve(20 new gortex chords) and a left pulmonary isolation ablation. It was so exciting to see the echo 3 days after the surgery and see that there was no leak!! Amazing! I was discharged from the Hospital yesterday and will be heading home to Baton Rouge tomorrow. We cannot say enough great things about Dr. Smith and the hospital here in Dallas. Thanks to all of you who encouraged and supported me!
Steven Perrotta That is great news. So glad for you. Good luck with your recovery.
Michael Eichhorn Awesome Andrew! So happy to hear about your success.
Anna Jones Wonderful news. Have a safe trip home and please keep us posted.
Ivana Okereke Thats great news! I also have Barlow's Syndrome and will have surgery sometime in June. I am still co ... Read more
Ivana Okereke Thats great news! I also have Barlow's Syndrome and will have surgery sometime in June. I am still contemplating whether to go for robotic or sternotomy. What did you have?
Don L Congrats Andrew! I had MI Robotic with Dr Smith as well 6 weeks back. Barlow as well, 20 new Gortex ... Read more
Don L Congrats Andrew! I had MI Robotic with Dr Smith as well 6 weeks back. Barlow as well, 20 new Gortex Chordi as well! Can't say enough great things about team at HHBP, my recovery has far exceeded my expectations. After my follow up couple weeks back I was released to only follow up annually.
Kathy Blank Andrew- great news! Dr Smith is my hero and I am SO happy you are doing so well! I love THHBP- they a ... Read more
Kathy Blank Andrew- great news! Dr Smith is my hero and I am SO happy you are doing so well! I love THHBP- they are going to open their new wing soon!
Andrew Venuto @Ivana Okereke I had robotic minimally invasive surgery. Everyone's situation is different, but this ... Read more
Andrew Venuto @Ivana Okereke I had robotic minimally invasive surgery. Everyone's situation is different, but this technique worked out great for me.
Ivana Okereke I am so glad that you are doing so well. I am leaning towards robotic as well, meeting with Dr. Guy a ... Read more
Ivana Okereke I am so glad that you are doing so well. I am leaning towards robotic as well, meeting with Dr. Guy at NY Presbyterian Cornell in a week. Thank you for letting me know.
Has anyone out there chosen not to have their left atrial appendage closed during surgery? I'm 42 and currently at extremely low risk for stoke (CHA₂DS₂-VASc ...Read more
Has anyone out there chosen not to have their left atrial appendage closed during surgery? I'm 42 and currently at extremely low risk for stoke (CHA₂DS₂-VASc score = 0) and considering opting out due to short term and long term side effects. Thanks!
Steve Farthing Andrew, Apparently you already have afib which places you at risk of clots forming in the LAA and the ... Read more
Steve Farthing Andrew, Apparently you already have afib which places you at risk of clots forming in the LAA and therefore stroke. You have even greater risk of afib after heart surgery. Since the surgeon already has access to the LAA, it is usually considered prudent to close it at that time. The scoring system rates the need for anticoagulation meds which also have side effects. Especially people with non-valvular afib may be able to avoid the meds. It does not rate the prudence of closing the LAA in someone who has afib with MV regurgitation and has the LAA surgically exposed ready to be closed. So you would have to weigh the ease of closing the LAA against the benefits(?) of not closing it.
Has anyone out there undergone mitral valve surgery even when they were symptom free?
Phyllis Petersen You have a-fib and fatigue, but are "symptom free." Actually, fatigue was one of the biggest issues I ... Read more
Phyllis Petersen You have a-fib and fatigue, but are "symptom free." Actually, fatigue was one of the biggest issues I had. I brought it up to my doctor, but she didn't make the connection. Everyone assumed it was just changing hormones. I had no idea how much blood was being leaked backwards. Often symptoms are subtle, but the TEE made it clear that I needed the surgery soon. Plus, my left ventricle was starting to enlarge, and that's not a good thing. All the best for a successful surgery and an uneventful recovery.
Nancy Surprenant Takahashi Yes, I was completely symptom free, felt wonderful and had my valve repaired on 4/10. For months before I wondered if I should do this. But my tests showed that my ventrical was starting to enlarge. I asked the surgeon and my cardiologist if I really needed this surgeon, i felt so good and why do this. They both made it VERY clear to me that the leak was so back and my heart was working way to hard and if I didn't fix this i would damage a completely healthy heart. My surgeon was very upfront and said "there is no way out, you need this, I know you don't feel as if you do but your heart will become weak, and we need to fix this soon before it does".
Gina Fiorentino Yes, me too. No symptoms, or so I thought...
Now that I am on the recovery side, I have experienced ... Read more
Gina Fiorentino Yes, me too. No symptoms, or so I thought...
Now that I am on the recovery side, I have experienced less pressure in my chest from the backward flow of blood in my heart. Also, my blood pressure is much better- so I guess what was normal for me, could have been subtle symptoms.
Willie Radl Agree with others above, I had AVR replaced with no symptoms because of severe regurgitation. You're ... Read more
Willie Radl Agree with others above, I had AVR replaced with no symptoms because of severe regurgitation. You're not saving yourself anything by waiting and your problem will only get worse. Fix it while the rest of your heart is still in good shape
Susan Lynn In my case, the recommendation was to have the repair before there was damage. Glad I did! It's now ... Read more
Susan Lynn In my case, the recommendation was to have the repair before there was damage. Glad I did! It's now history!
Steve Farthing From Mt Sinai Hospital: "It is preferable to operate on patients early in their symptomatic course, ... Read more
Steve Farthing From Mt Sinai Hospital: "It is preferable to operate on patients early in their symptomatic course, as long term survival following mitral valve repair is compromised in patients with New York Heart Association Class III or IV symptoms." https://www.mitralvalverepair.org/indications-surgery
Factors determining timing of surgery for degenerative mitral regurgitation in the current American College of Cardiology and American Heart Association guidelines include symptoms, left ventricular (LV) ejection fraction (EF), LV end-systolic dimension (LV ESD), atrial fibrillation, and pulmonary hypertension1. All patients who have any symptoms and moderate or severe mitral regurgitation should be referred for surgical treatment. It is preferable to operate on patients early in their symptomatic course, as long term survival following mitral valve repair is compromised in patients with New York Heart Association Class III or IV symptoms (see Figure 1)2. Patients with lesser degrees of regurgitation in the presence of symptoms will often be found to have increased mitral regurgitation, or inadequate increase in ejection fraction, on stress echocardiography and should also be referred for surgical consideration3. Asymptomatic patients with left ventricular dilatation (LV end systolic diameter more than 45 mm), decreased Ejection Fraction (<60%), atrial fibrillation or pulmonary hypertension (PA systolic pressure > 50 mm Hg at rest or > 60 mm Hg with exercise) should also be considered for elective mitral valve surgery. When following patients with asymptomatic moderate to severe mitral regurgitation, one should pay particular attention to serial ejection fraction, as a drop to <60% confers poorer long term survival even with successful mitral valve repair (Figure 2)4.
Kirk Bepler Andrew - I'm about to have surgery and I did not show any symptoms as well, but my Echo showed I had ... Read more
Kirk Bepler Andrew - I'm about to have surgery and I did not show any symptoms as well, but my Echo showed I had some enlargement and went from there. I had every test done to make sure I was jumping into something not needed since I felt fine, the last test was the MRI that show in ejection was way down from 10 years at 70% to now 51%. From reading online and on here there are people out there that do not have symptoms needing surgery, can very confusing but you are not alone.
Kathy Blank I had NO symptoms but the echo showed severe regurgitation and I am SO happy I scheduled surgery befo ... Read more
Kathy Blank I had NO symptoms but the echo showed severe regurgitation and I am SO happy I scheduled surgery before I had symptoms! I don’t see any benefit to waiting - only risk of heart damage!
Kathy Blank And btw- Dr Robert Smith performed my robotic MV Repair Feb 2017- he is incredible and The Heart Hosp ... Read more
Kathy Blank And btw- Dr Robert Smith performed my robotic MV Repair Feb 2017- he is incredible and The Heart Hospital Baylor Plano provides incredible care!
Don L Great advice and agree with others. I was "symptom free" prior to my surgery, but some symptoms are ... Read more
Don L Great advice and agree with others. I was "symptom free" prior to my surgery, but some symptoms are hard to notice because they come on slowly, like fatigue, and also easy to attribute to aging. All reading and studies I have seen and confirmed by Drs, indicate timing based on TEE classifying as "severe" and beginning signs of enlargement for best outcomes and returning to normal lifespan. Also ideal to intervene in time to repair instead of replace if possible. I was informed The heart will remodel if enlargement is addressed relatively soon.(timing varies but I was told 3 or 4 months once severity and Atrium enlargement confirmed). I am 5 weeks post op op and feel great. I had minimally invasive Robotic Mitral Valve repair. Anxiety prior to surgery FAR worse than actual experience. Good luck on next steps, you are in good company.
Susan Robichau I am almost 3 weeks post mitral value repair. I also had no symptoms and also no preoperative AFIB. I ... Read more
Susan Robichau I am almost 3 weeks post mitral value repair. I also had no symptoms and also no preoperative AFIB. I developed AFib as a result of the surgery but hopefully that is temporary. I will be honest, compared to how I felt preop I feel like crap! SHort of breath, sore, etc, etc. That said I totally believe that if I had not done it I would have damaged my heart beyond repair. So, no regrets.
Andrew Venuto Thanks to everyone for the helpful comments! This website is the best! Now I just have to decide whe ... Read more
Andrew Venuto Thanks to everyone for the helpful comments! This website is the best! Now I just have to decide whether or not to have the left atrial appendage closed or not...
Jim Harvey Hey Andrew, one more analogy for you. Ever hear of the frog and the pot of water? If you put a frog ... Read more
Jim Harvey Hey Andrew, one more analogy for you. Ever hear of the frog and the pot of water? If you put a frog in a pot of boiling water, it'll jump right out. If you put it in a pot of room temperature water and gradually increase the heat, it'll stay there until it's dead.
One of my consulting docs used this with me when he asked about my symptoms. I was diagnosed asymptomatic.
Helen Daw I thought I had no symptoms. I hiked everyday for an hour and was working 50-60 hours a week. I rela ... Read more
Helen Daw I thought I had no symptoms. I hiked everyday for an hour and was working 50-60 hours a week. I related my shortness of breath for being overweight. I knew about my Mitral Valve since I was a little girl, but did not think I was symptomatic till I discovered that I had severe regurgitation. I decided to go ahead with my surgery to prevent damage to my heart, so yes, my surgery was selective. I could have waited, but why would I do that??
Mary Woods I'm really glad I've read these posts. I was told in December that I will need mitral valve surger ... Read more
Mary Woods I'm really glad I've read these posts. I was told in December that I will need mitral valve surgery because the leak is verging on severe. I get palpitations, but I've always been told they're ventricular ectopics and no problem. I'm always tired, but I have lupus and fibromyalgia, so no big surprise.
I was told this news 6 weeks after my husband had an urgent 3xCABG.
Probably not too surprising I'm not too keen on cardiac surgery that isn't immediately necessary!
Linda Griffin I had no symptoms. No fatigue, no shortness of breath but echo and TEE showed severe regurgitation. ... Read more
Linda Griffin I had no symptoms. No fatigue, no shortness of breath but echo and TEE showed severe regurgitation. My cardiologist felt it was time to operate before symptoms set it.
I recently had a consult with my surgeon. I will be having mitral valve repair surgery with a maze procedure and left atrial appendage closure. What was a little ...Read more
I recently had a consult with my surgeon. I will be having mitral valve repair surgery with a maze procedure and left atrial appendage closure. What was a little unsettling was that he indicated that the maze and left atrial closure very probably will INCREASE a-fib for the near future before it improves. Has anyone else had this experience? Also, this was the first I had heard about closure/removal of the left atrial appendage. From what I've read, it looks like it's standard procedure, although inconclusive as to whether or not it helps. Thanks!!
Sophia Ridley I’ve got an atriclip closing the left appendage, haven’t found many others with one. Didn’t hav ... Read more
Sophia Ridley I’ve got an atriclip closing the left appendage, haven’t found many others with one. Didn’t have made though. You sound like you’re having belt and braces!!
My surgeon told me that it’s all part of my repair structure. I didn’t realise I had it until I had an X-ray! If you have an MRI then they will need to recalibrate the machine.
I had AF post op, there was no indication it was because of the clip. The heart is handled more during a MV op due to where the valve is. 30% of MV patients do, 90% recovery through rate management alone. Adam’s newsletter goes into details. It takes the wind out of you, but as you get stronger and your heart recovers then it improves. The closure prevents 90% of the clots forming due AF, and it’s there for life. As you get older, you will be more susceptible to AF regardless of your heart op so the clip is a positive.
Michael Culpepper I had maze along with my mitral repair, but no the appendage closure. I had been in a-fib when origin ... Read more
Michael Culpepper I had maze along with my mitral repair, but no the appendage closure. I had been in a-fib when originally diagnosed about 7 months before the surgery. Was de-fibbed and it did not return. Since the repair/maze, zero incidents of a-fib.
Barbara Wood Hi Andrew, I had the maze & the appendage tie off along with my mitral repair. My doc didn't say anyt ... Read more
Barbara Wood Hi Andrew, I had the maze & the appendage tie off along with my mitral repair. My doc didn't say anything about afib being increased for awhile afterwards - maybe he was referring to the afib many people get right after surgery ? I had afib about 5 days after I left the hospital - had an electro- cardioversion & have not had it since - 11 months nsr. He did tell me that it takes a few months for the maze to heal enough to be effective - I took amiodorone for a few months after surgery to keep the heart in rhythm.
Michael Meyer Andrew:
There may be more additional research on the removal of the appendage but I did not have the ... Read more
Michael Meyer Andrew:
There may be more additional research on the removal of the appendage but I did not have the appendage removed during the mitral valve repair surgery.
I had a second surgical consult and that surgeon also does not remove the appendage.
You might ask for the research at your local hospital library they can be very helpful or at least discuss more with your physician or get a second opinion.
I also had a drop in my ejection fraction after surgery and I took a combination of metoprolol and lisinopril to assist in heart remodeling - according to my cardiologist, my heart had to acclimate to pumping more blood after surgery. There was improvement after a few months and I stayed on for several more. I will find out my EF next Tuesday at my first annual appointment with my surgeon.
All the best to you.